| 19 Apr 2026 |
 Ralith | I think something bazel-ish is absolutely necessarily the way forwards in the long run, leaning a bit more heavily into hermeticity and hopefully decrufted | 03:41:51 |
| Ralith | I hoped buck2 would be this but meta dgaf about external users | 03:42:13 |
| Ralith | fingers crossed for https://vixen.rs/ | 03:42:19 |
| Ralith | in the meantime if you need to actually get some work done, bazel is Fine if you take care. I think it's less idiosyncratic than, like, Nix, though a lot easier to shoot yourself in the foot with hermeticity-wise. | 03:46:49 |
| Ralith | I think this specifically is overstated. There's a lot of folks successfully using Rust without cargo. It's some extra work, but it's typically easier than packaging stuff for nixpkgs. The rust/cargo folks have done a good job of making this friendly to automation.
Notably, it is much easier to port 99.9% of Rust crates to a new build system than to do the same for your average C/C++ project.
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 aphasic | In reply to @tumble1999:matrix.org
i could do that if there were other projects that do the same thing perhaps considering it leans on other programs for everything except kde compatibility im near certain there are | 04:43:03 |
 Benedikt | Is it realistic that nixos will switch too a package per crate model like guix did? | 10:06:16 |
 K900 | It's been proposed before but it requires a huge amount of work | 10:16:00 |
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