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25 Jun 2021
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldThey lower the migration cost for the unlucky ones in that equation03:34:31
@kity:kity.wtfashsure03:35:15
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnoldhttps://github.com/divnix/digga/commit/2353e718064f4941347a389bed843f8208629aae03:35:16
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold I started to prototype a ufr-polyfill pattern. 03:35:35
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnoldhttps://github.com/divnix/digga/commit/2353e718064f4941347a389bed843f8208629aae#diff-89fae20a46c95c7ad6fd445aa566bd10ce7a8425445e7340e102a813978618b4R11-R2703:36:18
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldThis WIP corresponds to https://demo.hedgedoc.org/uyQYTpTVQbyvpdcJ6MvlQg#Inputs-Patching03:38:23
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold * This WIP corresponds to Inputs Patching 03:38:38
@kity:kity.wtfashthank you for working on this stuff. it's valuable to try and deflate the problem, which i see you and others are working on doing03:41:42
@kity:kity.wtfashi get overly worked up about things like this, it's not only because of flakes but a general pet peeve of mine is people depending on unstable functionality03:42:35
@kity:kity.wtfashi can barely look at the main nix support channel because there's always someone asking for help with flakes and i hate it03:43:06
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold"deflate the problem" -- what a nice wording ! 😀03:43:43
@kity:kity.wtfashmaking it smaller and more manageable, easier to remove fully in the future03:44:01
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldI'll put that in the UFR03:44:13
@kity:kity.wtfashi recognize that my ideal of getting rid of it in one fell swoop is maybe unrealistic03:44:26
@kity:kity.wtfashi do think it's the quickest way out but maybe not the most agreeable03:44:46
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldHere it is: https://demo.hedgedoc.org/uyQYTpTVQbyvpdcJ6MvlQg?view#Unofficial-Flakes-Roadmap03:45:04
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
Lets deflate the problem
03:45:12
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold *

Lets deflate the problem ...

03:45:17
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
i do think it's the quickest way out but maybe not the most agreeable
I think with the right amount of deflation we can go back to a consensus point, indeed
03:45:47
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
i do think it's the quickest way out but maybe not the most agreeable
* I think with the right amount of deflation we can go back to a consensus point, indeed 🤣
03:46:00
@kity:kity.wtfashi still stand by my statements of not caring what happens to flakes and just wanting them gone03:46:41
@kity:kity.wtfashso that's the point i want to reach03:46:48
@kity:kity.wtfashand maybe when they're reintroduced through a proper process i'll be more comfortable with it all03:47:20
@kity:kity.wtfashif you want my real opinion, i think unstable nix should not be in nixpkgs at all, nor should nix flakes03:49:34
@kity:kity.wtfashone should have to go out of their way to get an unstable version of nix directly from the nix repo, because they're working on its development03:50:13
@kity:kity.wtfashhaving it so easily accessible promotes use of unstable features, which influences workflows and results in dependence on unstable stuff03:51:14
@kity:kity.wtfashmaybe i'm wrong. idk03:51:19
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldIt's diabolic poitics at play 😁03:55:20
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