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25 Jun 2021
@kity:kity.wtfashit doesn't get anything done, it just proposes more options03:18:44
@kity:kity.wtfashand what we need is not more options03:18:49
@kity:kity.wtfashwe need to make something happen03:18:55
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
we need to make something happen
Can you code C++?
03:19:27
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldI can't, and the URF is certainly not bikeshedding.03:19:54
@kity:kity.wtfashno, and last time i tried hacking on nix it didn't work out03:20:02
@kity:kity.wtfashi'm not gonna be the one to remove it from nix03:20:13
@kity:kity.wtfashbut we can do better than more rfc talk03:20:25
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldCitdelCore seems to transact upon it.03:20:51
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldThat's a good sing, after only 3 days03:20:57
@kity:kity.wtfashwhat is citadelcore03:21:06
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldWho!03:21:11
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
There is already some work consolidating around the input stuff here: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/4641
This PR and discussion
03:21:43
@kity:kity.wtfashwho is citadelcore03:21:43
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold I think we need to fix flake input semantics, first. and completely get rid of output contracts. 03:22:22
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold(the way they are today)03:22:30
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldGetting rid of output contracts also get's rid of the cli tooling consumer of it.03:22:42
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold ... gets rid of nix flake in good part 03:22:51
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold * ... gets rid of nix flake in some part 03:23:11
@kity:kity.wtfashand is that supposed to be a step towards fixing flakes or removing them?03:23:24
@kity:kity.wtfashbecause i don't care about fixing them03:23:29
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
because i don't care about fixing them
You said that already.
03:23:40
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldBUt it's not very prone to consensus, I guess.03:23:51
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold * But it's not very prone to consensus, I guess.03:23:58
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
and is that supposed to be a step towards fixing flakes or removing them?
fixing inputs. removing output contracts.
03:24:26
@kity:kity.wtfashwhat consensus? nobody agrees on what flakes should be, there was no consensus for letting them into nix in the first place03:24:39
@kity:kity.wtfashand now everyone is relying on them03:24:45
@kity:kity.wtfashi don't know or care what input or output contracts are :/03:25:04
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnoldthats indeed very intricate policits of playing consensus03:25:15
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
i don't know or care what input or output contracts are :/
only output contracts
03:25:30

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