| 13 May 2025 |
 emily | I don't think there was super careful consideration of alternatives back when we moved from IRC to Matrix | 13:35:50 |
| emily | (and the landscape is very different to back then) | 13:35:58 |
| emily | Freenode melting down kind of forced the issue. | 13:36:03 |
| emily | inertia does the rest; there's no committee regularly evaluating whether moving to something else might make sense | 13:36:23 |
 adamcstephens | i think IRCs major fault, as k900 pointed out, is the one line of text protocol. otherwise, i'd suspect we could make it work as well as matrix does(n't) | 13:38:53 |
 K900 | IRC not having the ability to easily attach images or other files is also definitely a problem | 13:40:02 |
| K900 | And yes yes IRCv3 fixes it | 13:40:08 |
| emily | yeah I mean I would be fine going back to IRCCloud but I don't expect us to actually choose that. | 13:41:35 |
| emily | (how's Matrix's ability to attach images right now? :p) | 13:41:52 |
|  Gnuxie 💜🐝 joined the room. | 14:22:09 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | sup everypony | 14:23:12 |
 TobiNary | matrix is way more broken then i thought. it looks like dentrite does not respect the delegation :) | 15:13:39 |
| TobiNary | * matrix is way more broken then i thought. it looks like dentrite does not respect delegation. I get PUTs on the federation API on my webserver, exclusively from Dendrite instances :D | 15:24:34 |
 @magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org | My recommendation has always been to run synapse, so like, yes dendrite is bromen | 15:26:11 |
| @magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org | * | 15:26:15 |
| TobiNary | * matrix is way more broken then i thought. it looks like dentrite does not respect delegation. I get PUTs on the federation API on my webserver, exclusively from Dendrite instances. They ofc fail - and my homeserver runs in federation timeouts because the federation call from them never arrives. Trying to join #dendrite:matrix.org to talk to someone about it overwhelmed my small home server with backtracking on the re-trys for federation, so i had to leave again :D | 15:26:34 |
| TobiNary | my synapse collapsed when i tried to join :D | 15:27:10 |
| K900 | Dendrite is not really supposed to be ready yet | 15:27:12 |
| @magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org | And while i respect the people working on conduit, conduit forks quite often, so if youre feeling adventurous sure, but otherwise synapse | 15:27:22 |
| K900 | But a lot of people jumped on it anyway | 15:27:28 |
| @magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org | In reply to @tobi:stapelueberfluss.de
my synapse collapsed when i tried to join :D Is your synapse using workers? | 15:27:28 |
| K900 | Because of how slow Synapse is | 15:27:33 |
| TobiNary | and yet, since joining this space i have three federation requests a minute from dendrite (different versions even, so some are not regularly updated even:D) | 15:28:21 |
| TobiNary | * and yet, since joining this space i have three federation requests a minute from dendrite homeservers (different versions even, so some are not regularly updated even:D) | 15:28:36 |
| TobiNary | * and yet, since joining this space i have three failing federation requests a minute from dendrite homeservers (different versions even, so some are not regularly updated even:D) | 15:28:46 |
| TobiNary | no. it's on a tiny VPS | 15:29:04 |
| @magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org | In reply to @tobi:stapelueberfluss.de
no. it's on a tiny VPS Then its configured wrong | 15:29:25 |
| TobiNary | i reckon the overhead of managing the works would probably not outweigh the improvements from using workers | 15:29:41 |
| @magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org | Synapse requires workers for reasonable performance, is it using at least postgres | 15:29:45 |
| TobiNary | * i reckon the overhead of managing the workers would probably not outweigh the improvements from using workers | 15:29:48 |
