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25 Jun 2021
@kity:kity.wtfashno it doesn't. flakes can come back when it's ready.03:08:20
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
no it doesn't. flakes can come back when it's ready.
Make a distionction
03:08:32
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
no it doesn't. flakes can come back when it's ready.
* Make a distinction
03:08:39
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold... where it's approriate.03:08:45
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold flake vs nix 3.0 03:08:50
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold or nix flake 03:08:56
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold vs flake.nix 03:09:00
@kity:kity.wtfashflakes should never have been introduced to nix unstable in the first place03:09:22
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold I hear you point as such: nix flake go away so we can release nix 03:09:29
@kity:kity.wtfashthey should've been developed separately03:09:30
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldWhat are flakes?03:10:36
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold * What are flakes? 03:11:33
@kity:kity.wtfashthe thing i'm seeing with this document is a lot of discussion that would be welcome in an rfc03:13:02
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
they should've been developed separately
A plugin system for nix would be nice.
03:13:04
@kity:kity.wtfashbut this isn't an rfc03:13:09
@kity:kity.wtfash it's a discussion about what to do right now 03:13:17
@kity:kity.wtfashwhich doesn't mean "rethinking flakes" or changing the implementation03:13:29
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
it's a discussion about what to do right now
I would be suffering if they where removed omorrow)
03:14:10
@kity:kity.wtfash
In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
A plugin system for nix would be nice.
nobody needs a plugin system. flakes can be implemented in pure nix at least as a proof of concept, and it would've been easier to hack on the implementation then
03:14:14
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
it's a discussion about what to do right now
* I would be suffering if they where removed tomorrow
03:14:16
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
nobody needs a plugin system. flakes can be implemented in pure nix at least as a proof of concept, and it would've been easier to hack on the implementation then
Sure, we need one. I'm no Cpp expert.
03:14:31
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold(I don't know even not a littl bit)03:14:47
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold(I can barely read the code, half)03:14:54
@kity:kity.wtfash
In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
I would be suffering if they where removed tomorrow
sorry you rely so much on an unstable hotly contested feature that should've never been implemented in the first place.
03:15:07
@kity:kity.wtfash:/03:15:11
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold:/03:15:20
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldYou see the problem 😄03:15:35
@kity:kity.wtfashi see the problem is people started relying on an unstable feature and now view it as vital to the ecosystem03:16:19
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold So what can we do right now? 03:16:27
@kity:kity.wtfashwhat the hell does "unstable" mean03:16:29

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