| 24 Apr 2025 |
 K900 | Not space wide, no | 04:41:48 |
 woobilicious | not sure if channels have them, but I guess a bot could manage them if they exist with enough power. | 04:43:00 |
 loudgolem | does this have some solution?
K900? maybe
| 05:16:41 |
| K900 | What is "this", exactly? | 05:17:39 |
| loudgolem | I can't join that channel | 05:17:52 |
| loudgolem | neither can those two users above | 05:18:03 |
| loudgolem | MatrixError: [403] You are not invited to this room. (https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/client/v3/join/%23users%3Anixos.org) | 05:18:18 |
| K900 | The room is currently configured to require an invite from an existing user to join, or a "knock" (i.e. a join request) | 05:19:55 |
| K900 | I have sent you an invite | 05:20:23 |
| loudgolem | thanks, previously it wasn't the case. is this to prevent spam or something? | 05:20:48 |
| loudgolem | * thanks, previously it wasn't the case. is this to prevent spam or something like that? | 05:20:54 |
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| K900 | Yes, there has been a semi-coordinated spam attack | 05:22:28 |
 Cat | In reply to @woobilicious:matrix.org
Does matrix not have a way to assign roles or permissions like discord does? It seems kinda bad to only have the main channel locked out, and not the others, ideally you'd want a single channel users can speak in and then some way to assign roles to join others. Some discord servers I've been in just uses emoji reactions to assign channel invites. The closest we have today is restricted and getting a invite to the approving room | 06:02:07 |
| Cat | Also the discord style join gates would require further spec work to be realistically implemented but well no real enthusiasm for doing that work has been shown in the years the MSCs have been around | 06:04:12 |
| K900 | Technically you can bot this kind of | 06:04:55 |
| K900 | Just have the default PL for a room at 0 | 06:05:04 |
| K900 | * Just have the default PL for a room at -1 | 06:05:14 |
| K900 | And then have a bot promote people to 0 | 06:05:22 |
| Cat | I didn’t mention bot shenanigans because it has a scaling problem and a massive tendency to amplify the existing problems | 06:13:01 |
| Cat | And well it makes state res even more expensive | 06:13:16 |
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| woobilicious | Cat: What are these scaling problems? is this due to it being E2E? | 08:22:13 |
| Cat | It puts an artificial cap on the amount of users a given room can have at a given time that are approved. Even if said cap is quite high its still a cap. | 08:29:27 |
| Cat | and the non capped approach instead allows the spam to race with your bot causing just as much havoc potentially. | 08:29:54 |
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