| 30 Jun 2025 |
 K900 | If you want non-federated | 15:10:39 |
| K900 | Just run Mattermost or something | 15:10:42 |
| K900 | Unironically it's a MUCH BETTER SOLVED PROBLEM | 15:10:49 |
| K900 | Because there's obvious corporate customers you can sell to | 15:11:05 |
| K900 | There's Mattermost, RocketChat, whatever that Discord compatible one was | 15:11:28 |
 Charlotte 🦝 (it/its) | there is no reason to use matrix non-federated, or if you have strict requirements on where data needs to be stored | 15:12:32 |
| K900 | Matrix is really bad at a lot of things that are trivial on non-federated-by-design platforms | 15:12:55 |
| K900 | Specifically because it's federated | 15:12:59 |
| K900 | If you're going to run non-federated Matrix, you get all the pain of designing around federation with none of the advantages | 15:13:19 |
 hustlerone | yeah that's what I have realised from day 0 | 15:13:38 |
| Charlotte 🦝 (it/its) | In reply to @lotte:chir.rs
there is no reason to use matrix non-federated, or if you have strict requirements on where data needs to be stored although i have for a long while pretty much only used matrix for the chat bridges | 15:14:09 |
| hustlerone | thanks for telling me about mattermost i'll check it out | 15:14:10 |
| K900 | Honestly you might even want to consider Zulip | 15:14:45 |
| K900 | Depending on the use cae | 15:14:47 |
| K900 | * Depending on the use case | 15:14:48 |
 QuadRadical (Ping / Reply) | Spacebar is the discord comp one | 15:43:44 |
 Marie | i'm still confused why the german military adopted matrix | 15:46:55 |
| Marie | maybe because element told them that they totally need federation or something idk | 15:47:31 |
| Charlotte 🦝 (it/its) | yeah the german gov is weird like that | 15:47:50 |
 bandithedoge | In reply to @marie:marie.cologne
i'm still confused why the german military adopted matrix not just the military, germany's healthcare system also uses something based on matrix | 15:48:16 |
| bandithedoge | even the polish armed forces uses matrix | 15:48:31 |
| Charlotte 🦝 (it/its) | then again I'm surprised that federated messengers are somehow allowed given that they do just combine the chats internal to the agencies into one big one | 15:49:02 |
| Marie | oh right i completely forgot about that one | 15:49:36 |
| bandithedoge | https://interoperable-europe.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/german-health-system-adopts-matrix | 15:50:06 |
| Marie | Gematik 😵💫 | 15:50:39 |
| bandithedoge | apparently matrix was the most obvious choice that satisfied their requirements | 15:50:50 |
 Cat | Because if you perfect State Res its perfect. | 16:18:54 |
| Cat | as in Matrix replicates the type of resiliency the internet was born out of. | 16:19:20 |
| Cat | As in it makes sense for those types of customers if the math worked better as they have a fanatical desire for self hosting but also they like the perks federation can bring. | 16:20:43 |
| 1 Jul 2025 |
|  babeler set a profile picture. | 00:26:49 |
