| 30 Jun 2025 |
 Cat | Even then spaces replace like 3 different discord features with the space level feature alone | 14:58:36 |
 hustlerone | i'm asking because i don't want smartass #3943 to flood my entire homeserver with spaces | 14:59:10 |
| Cat | Actually it’s more like 4 features. | 14:59:19 |
 K900 | You can't ban people from creating rooms | 14:59:23 |
| K900 | Because rooms don't exist "on a homeserver" | 14:59:29 |
| Cat | In reply to @hustlerone:matrix.org
i'm asking because i don't want smartass #3943 to flood my entire homeserver with spaces Then you need to restrict room creation on your server and joining | 14:59:43 |
| K900 | Rooms exist on every homeserver that is in that room | 14:59:46 |
| Cat | As spaces are rooms | 14:59:59 |
| hustlerone | my homeserver is not federated btw | 15:00:01 |
| K900 | Then you need to restrict room creation on your server I guess | 15:00:19 |
| hustlerone | i assume i can easily restrict room creation in spaces | 15:01:21 |
| hustlerone | but it's a shame i can't restrict spaces | 15:01:35 |
| hustlerone | I've seen people do hacky fixes like delete unauthorised spaces every 15 mins | 15:01:56 |
| K900 | You can't | 15:02:26 |
| K900 | Rooms don't exist "in spaces" | 15:02:32 |
| hustlerone | so you can create rooms outside of spaces? | 15:03:11 |
| Cat | In reply to @hustlerone:matrix.org
but it's a shame i can't restrict spaces You can | 15:03:25 |
| Cat | It’s trivial even | 15:03:29 |
| Cat | You just need to have a smarter firewall like matrix corporal in play | 15:04:00 |
| Cat | Or block it wholesale via reverse proxy | 15:04:12 |
| Cat | As spaces are trivial to tell apart from regular rooms when being created | 15:04:46 |
| Cat | In reply to @hustlerone:matrix.org
so you can create rooms outside of spaces? Yes | 15:05:00 |
| Cat | All dms are rooms | 15:05:07 |
| Cat | Because all persistent communication channels on matrix are rooms | 15:05:26 |
| hustlerone | the architecture is confusing when you don't want to be federated | 15:06:42 |
| hustlerone | what would I miss from Matrix if I use XMPP instead | 15:07:27 |
| hustlerone | from a non-federation standpoint | 15:07:45 |
| Cat | In reply to @hustlerone:matrix.org
the architecture is confusing when you don't want to be federated It’s not that confusing from my perspective | 15:08:21 |
| hustlerone | it's confusing to manage | 15:08:36 |
| K900 | Honestly | 15:10:34 |
