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19 Jul 2025
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]i dont08:43:15
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply) why? 13:40:22
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesgood question, the main things i see are that it repeats this mistake https://polyproto.org/docs/protocols/core#5-federation-ids-fids and also has a very discord model, whereas i think matrix's insight that everything can be modeled as different types of rooms was a good idea15:36:31
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply) i kind of agree with you about the discord thing, about repeating the mistake, what is the mistake there? 15:39:51
@charles:computer.surgeryCharleshuman-readable identifiers15:40:06
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesconsider: trans people15:40:10
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply)huh15:40:25
@charles:computer.surgeryCharleschanging your FID will likely be a massive pain in the ass like it is on matrix15:40:43
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesthis is bad15:40:48
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply)ah interesting15:40:49
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply)ill ask15:40:50
@charles:computer.surgeryCharleslikely the answer you'll get is "different FIDs are considered different identities" just like in matrix15:41:31
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply)ive asked we will see but that makes sense yeah15:41:33
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply)maybe15:41:53
@k900:0upti.meK900 Honestly I am extremely worried by the idea of "let's just copy Discord's API" 15:41:56
@k900:0upti.meK900Because not only is the Discord API only really supported by Discord clients15:42:04
@k900:0upti.meK900Which you can't use with your Discord clone anyway15:42:09
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply)flori is very open to feedback for this stuff so its worth stopping by and talking to them a bit15:42:11
@k900:0upti.meK900But it's also fucking terrible15:42:14
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply) also spacebar clients 15:42:17
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply)spacebar clients will likely be compatable with polyphony with only a little modification15:42:33
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply) i did ask about this as well, i was told its not that bad, but idk 15:42:45
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesoh is it straight up a copy15:42:57
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply) its api compatable with spacebar, which is api compatable with discord 15:43:14
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply)so yeah15:43:15
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesew15:43:20
@k900:0upti.meK900 It is bad 15:43:36
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping / Reply) you think its a bad idea as well? 15:43:36
@k900:0upti.meK900For one it doesn't have sync15:43:43
@k900:0upti.meK900Which is insane15:43:45

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