| 12 Aug 2025 |
 uep | matrix being matrix, that may not actually be possible. there are enough old rooms that have been upgraded and tombstoned, but where people are still stuck and active | 00:35:54 |
| uep | (but yes, that would be part of the plan if we were to make such a switch, even with the limitations) | 00:36:55 |
 emily | yeah, the ghost rooms are at least orders of magnitude less active though | 02:52:49 |
| emily | (and my presumption is that if every room was clearly decommissioned and sites etc. didn't point to the Matrix then they'd be less active still, because less expectation that a room that appears to be the main Nix Offtopic room should be active) | 02:53:42 |
|  @i.am.dario:matrix.org left the room. | 06:40:23 |
 Gi Are | zulip.com, or something else?i remember a library called rulip a long time ago | 10:32:54 |
 Charles | yes, zulip.com zulip. it can also be selfhosted, no idea what nixos would prefer to do there | 14:30:27 |
| emily | you do need their servers to do push notifs through the app | 14:34:14 |
| emily | but they offer that for self-hosted users too | 14:34:20 |
| emily | and it would be $0 both SaaS and self-hosted for us | 14:34:26 |
| emily | no idea which would be preferable in terms of autonomy and infra burden, but there is at least full export/import both ways, so the lock-in would be minimal | 14:34:56 |
| emily | (self-hosted is also fully FOSS and has I believe equivalent feature set; it's just getting to use their Apple/Google-approved notification servers that has any involvement from the corp attached) | 14:35:37 |
 QuadRadical (Ping) | is zulip actually used for non-corporate stuff? | 14:35:37 |
