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2 Jun 2021
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe rooms would still exist and be fully operable with their current administrators etc.23:24:17
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilynow, if matrix.org died, that would be interesting, since I wouldn't be surprised if all the administrators had :matrix.org accounts :)23:24:33
@hexa:lossy.networkhexalots of rooms have only admins on :nixos.org right now23:24:41
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathat's not exactly a great situation23:24:47
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyoh huh23:24:52
@kevincox:matrix.orgkevincoxIt would be good to get admins on different servers.23:24:59
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa(like this one)23:25:02
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyok I thought "we can't give out :nixos.org accounts because of the $10/month user limits" meant "nobody gets :nixos.org accounts", not "the most special people get them", sorry :p23:25:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyso yeah, it would probably be a good long-term futureproofing idea to have backup admins in the rooms I guess23:25:29
@hexa:lossy.networkhexagraham and eelco have one account on nixos.org each23:25:30
@kevincox:matrix.orgkevincoxWell we need a couple of people with nixos.org accounts to manage the aliases and room directory for nixos.org23:25:37
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathree are "free", but that doesn't mean they will be used23:25:43
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyeah, admin is unavoidable23:25:46
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathe homeserver on nixos.org is just for the control over the namespace23:25:57
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilycan a foreign-homeserver user not be admin in a homeserver for managing aliases and stuff? that's a bit sad23:26:02
@hexa:lossy.networkhexayou can only add public aliases for homeservers you control23:26:30
@hexa:lossy.networkhexai could add #nixos-matrix-suggestions:lossy.network23:26:39
@hexa:lossy.networkhexabut I could only publish it if i was at least moderator23:26:47
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyeah23:27:40
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI just wasn't sure if you had to be native to that homeserver to publish them23:27:41
@kevincox:matrix.orgkevincoxI think right now yes. 23:28:22
@kevincox:matrix.orgkevincoxIn the future spaces will make homeserver directories obsolete. But right now the support is sparse. (AKA just Element IIUC)23:28:51
@kevincox:matrix.orgkevincox * In the future spaces will make homeserver directories obsolete. But right now the support is sparse. (AKA just the Element clients IIUC)23:28:59
@sumner:sumnerevans.comsumnerI don't think that homeserver directories will ever become entirely obsolete, but I think they will definitely become less necessary.23:33:02
@kevincox:matrix.orgkevincoxIDK. There was some talk about if the homeserver directory APIs could be re-targeted at a space. Basically keep them there for compatibility but under the hood they are just reading from and writing to a space. Of course there is still work to do like making sure that peeking and everything works as it does today.23:34:51
@hexa:lossy.networkhexafinding spaces is still a bit tedious :)23:35:07
@kevincox:matrix.orgkevincoxWhat do you mean by "finding"?23:35:20
@hexa:lossy.networkhexacan't exactly search for spaces23:35:36
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaonly rooms23:35:37
@sumner:sumnerevans.comsumnerdiscovery of spaces is total crap currently23:35:48

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