| 28 Apr 2025 |
 @emma:rory.gay | i use matrix so i dont have to deal with other platforms, moving to zulip would be quite the opposite of that | 08:32:08 |
 @jh-devv:matrix.org | In reply to @palasso:matrix.org
Many thanks to the mod team working on this issue the past few weeks and the NixOS community at large for this awesome community and distro ❤️ Yeah. Especially with all the mental health drain from this | 08:32:37 |
 uep | NGL, a 12-day weekend with mostly no useable cellular data throughput was.. needed | 08:36:39 |
| @jh-devv:matrix.org | In reply to @emma:rory.gay
i use matrix so i dont have to deal with other platforms, moving to zulip would be quite the opposite of that What about moving to good old IRC 😭 /s | 08:37:23 |
|  @kevin:boula.in joined the room. | 10:07:49 |
 @joepie91:pixie.town | tangential, but I get kind of annoyed by comments along the lines of "let's migrate to <other platform>", as if that is a trivial thing to do with minimal consequences (which it isn't, and the constant floating of the idea does not help the sense of community stability either). doubly so when the current platform is one that we do actually have some degree of control over, like is the case with Matrix.
like, we can keep platform-hopping forever, tearing apart what's left of the community at every step, hoping that we'll eventually land on some platform from some company that somehow is prepared to do anything we need for us forever on a budget of "none"... or, more realistically, we could acknowledge that our community is ultimately ours to run and support, and that "everybody putting in their part to make it work" is the sustainable way forward, rather than expecting others to do it for us.
| 10:34:34 |
 ShamrockLee (Yueh-Shun Li) | The Element Android app turns out to be unable to reject room invitation. | 10:35:38 |
 @magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org | it for sure is, more likely a bug with your HS? | 10:36:05 |
| @magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
tangential, but I get kind of annoyed by comments along the lines of "let's migrate to <other platform>", as if that is a trivial thing to do with minimal consequences (which it isn't, and the constant floating of the idea does not help the sense of community stability either). doubly so when the current platform is one that we do actually have some degree of control over, like is the case with Matrix.
like, we can keep platform-hopping forever, tearing apart what's left of the community at every step, hoping that we'll eventually land on some platform from some company that somehow is prepared to do anything we need for us forever on a budget of "none"... or, more realistically, we could acknowledge that our community is ultimately ours to run and support, and that "everybody putting in their part to make it work" is the sustainable way forward, rather than expecting others to do it for us.
i will also add, thats exactly what these spammers want, its like terrorism, if you give up and yield to their demands they win. Leaving matrix is giving in to their demands and such we must not do that, because only then do they win | 10:37:04 |
 SigmaSquadron | "NixOS does not negotiate with terrorists" was not in my bingo card for today | 10:38:17 |
| @emma:rory.gay | i will say one thing:
IF YOU RUN YOUR OWN MATRIX SERVER: https://the-draupnir-project.github.io/draupnir-documentation/protections/block-invitations-on-server-protection
IF YOU DO NOT RUN YOUR OWN MATRIX SERVER: https://cgit.rory.gay/matrix/tools/MatrixAntiDmSpam.git/
FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO BE EXTRA SURE: why not both? | 10:39:51 |
| @emma:rory.gay | * i will say one thing:
IF YOU RUN YOUR OWN MATRIX SERVER: https://the-draupnir-project.github.io/draupnir-documentation/protections/block-invitations-on-server-protection
IF YOU DO NOT RUN YOUR OWN MATRIX SERVER: https://cgit.rory.gay/matrix/tools/MatrixAntiDmSpam.git/about
FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO BE EXTRA SURE: why not both? | 10:40:43 |
| @emma:rory.gay | sorry for the caps, important distinction :) | 10:41:02 |
|  Andrew Morgan (anoa) {he/him} changed their display name from Andrew Morgan (anoa) {he/him} to Andrew Morgan (anoa) {he/him} [matrix.org / element.io]. | 10:41:10 |
| SigmaSquadron | * | 10:41:28 |
| @emma:rory.gay | 👀 | 10:41:30 |
| @emma:rory.gay | anoa moving to a personal account??? | 10:41:55 |
| ShamrockLee (Yueh-Shun Li) | * The Element Android app turns out to be unable to reject room invitation.
Update: The reject button doesn't work. I reported this through the crash report. | 10:42:35 |
| Andrew Morgan (anoa) {he/him} | nope, just accidentally did /nick instead of /myroomnick in a room 🤦♂️ | 10:43:18 |
| @emma:rory.gay | d'oh, lol | 10:43:32 |
| @emma:rory.gay | oh btw anoa, had some synapse db questions the other day, permission to dm? | 10:44:17 |
| @emma:rory.gay | i still need to do some recovery and im not quite sure what i should and shouldnt do, basically | 10:45:15 |
| ShamrockLee (Yueh-Shun Li) | Update, it turns out that I rejected it through Element Web client, but the invitation is still there on my Android client. | 10:47:17 |
| @emma:rory.gay | clear cache | 10:47:40 |
| Andrew Morgan (anoa) {he/him} | Hm, feel free to put them in #synapse:matrix.org and I can take a look | 10:55:56 |
| Andrew Morgan (anoa) {he/him} | Unless they're sensitive | 10:56:02 |
| @emma:rory.gay | i think the answer probably is more sensitive than the question | 10:56:51 |
| @emma:rory.gay | i'd already asked there but never got a response | 10:57:57 |
| @emma:rory.gay | but im going to ask again there in a few days | 10:58:58 |
| @emma:rory.gay | * but im going to ask again there in a few days when i have considerable amounts of time to dedicate to it | 10:59:24 |
