| 23 May 2025 |
 emily | like, we also rely on nixos.org for builders, the cache, the Discourse forum, … | 10:13:03 |
| emily | so Matrix sticking around in the event of a total nixos.org outage is, meh | 10:13:17 |
 @magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org | What could work is if homservers could take ownership of rooms but if the homeserver is unreachable then it would delegate to another HS, kind if like a list of fallbacks | 10:13:57 |
| emily | Gnuxie 💜🐝: (I appreciate the object-capabilities modelling by the way <3) | 10:15:10 |
| emily | that just reintroduces the same problems, because the homeserver can be reachable from one server but reachable from another, so now you have distributed systems problems, state reconciliation, eventual consistency, all of that stuff | 10:15:49 |
| emily | * that just reintroduces the same problems, because the homeserver can be reachable from one server but unreachable from another, so now you have distributed systems problems, state reconciliation, eventual consistency, all of that stuff | 10:16:00 |
 dgrig | I never said anything about all of nixos.org going down, just the fact that if you have centralized rooms (like in xmpp), you depend on the homeserver working for the rooms to work.
I agree that for most communities (like NixOS), a centralized room makes more sense. It's just not the way things are with Matrix currently (or will ever be I guess). | 10:16:05 |
| emily | you gotta commit to abandoning availability :P | 10:16:13 |
| emily | right | 10:16:20 |
