| 12 Aug 2025 |
 Gnuxie 💜🐝 | then why do the work that they did do recently and why also make changes to creators and the room id... | 14:47:47 |
 Charles | that's not a protocol change really | 14:47:59 |
 K900 | I don't think that's a fix | 14:48:07 |
| Charles | a protocol change would be to stop using delta-state CRDTs | 14:48:07 |
| K900 | It's a patch | 14:48:09 |
| K900 | But it doesn't solve the underlying issue | 14:48:15 |
| K900 | And arguably adds a bunch of new fun issues | 14:48:24 |
| Charles | i am highly doubtful they will do this | 14:48:28 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | regardless of what you think it is or its effect it is a change that should be welcome considering that there haven't been many like that | 14:48:37 |
| K900 | I don't know what a real fix will involve, but it will probably involve some sort of consensus thing | 14:48:40 |
| Charles | so matrix is screwed forever | 14:48:43 |
| Charles | yeah one would hope | 14:49:06 |
| K900 | Because I don't think zero trusting this is actually possible | 14:49:17 |
