| 16 Jan 2025 |
 Dandellion | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
unfortunately the benefit has expired :P Yeah, it's totally understandable. This discontent has brewed for a loong time | 17:38:43 |
 emily | I mean, when I started using Matrix my attitude was "this could be the best thing ever, there's rough edges but as long as they focus on the fundamentals and get those polished up I'll go all-in" | 17:39:28 |
| emily | 7 years later… a couple of those rough edges have been polished? and the rest are either just as bad or got worse as a bunch of shaky feature development has been piled on top of crumbling foundations | 17:40:00 |
| emily | which would be ok if they were candid about it but arathorn's public statements have maintained the exact same tone throughout the years and feel increasingly like dispatches from an alien world to me. | 17:41:08 |
 @emma:rory.gay | All im gonna say is, we have a good amount of non-enterprise ecosystem members at the governing level now, its a recent development and needs some time, but we'll get there eventually | 17:41:47 |
 K900 | I am mildly optimistic about less NV involvement in Matrix governance | 17:42:38 |
| emily | as with NixOS governance, I won't write it off ahead of time but I'll believe the progress when I see it :) | 17:43:00 |
| emily | I don't see any way the ecosystem is not going to be heavily dominated by/reliant on the clients and servers developed by Element | 17:43:09 |
| emily | and I don't see any reason to believe that Element's priorities will start to align more with mine | 17:43:18 |
| emily | so even if there is a nicer spec with a development direction I approve of more, I am not sure it will change the pragmatics from my point of view | 17:43:39 |
| emily | it doesn't really matter if there's good software out there if you're still constrained by the pain of interoperating with Element/Synapse/matrix.org | 17:44:18 |
| @emma:rory.gay | new director has been a big thing so far | 17:53:51 |
| @emma:rory.gay | theyre genuinely taking their time to listen to the community and i think its great :) (its also them who got the real name requirement dropped from the DCO fwiw) | 17:59:01 |
| @emma:rory.gay | * theyre genuinely taking their time to listen to the community and i think its great :) (its also them who got the real name requirement dropped from the DCO fwiw, iirc) | 17:59:12 |
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| @z9oexpkw:kde.org | Should minimal-iso install in a KVM VM with only 1G of RAM? My first attempt seems to have locked up almost immediately, and I wonder whether I should put any more effort into this. | 10:31:18 |
| K900 | #Nix / NixOS is a better room for this, and the answer is no | 10:31:38 |
| @z9oexpkw:kde.org | Thanks | 10:32:00 |
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 Charles | does anyone else see that the main "Nix / NixOS" room has no aliases? !RRerllqmbATpmbJgCn:nixos.org | 21:57:27 |
| 26 Jan 2025 |
| emily | not I. I thought we already replaced that one for split-brain?? | 00:48:11 |
| emily | (how does it take so long for servers to diverge on the expected state to the point where random things like this happen?) | 00:48:28 |
| @emma:rory.gay | #users:nixos.org? | 00:52:59 |
