| 16 Jan 2025 |
 Cat | The spec for room upgrades makes this behavior pretty standard. | 17:36:21 |
 Dandellion | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
given that it seems like the spec is driven by what Element wants and other clients only ever come up as lip service to the idea of being a diverse ecosystem and are otherwise totally neglected Im (still) giving them the benefit of the doubt here. This seems less true recently, user facing features just aren't being specced. While the spec team is actually doing more fundamental work.
Focusing on core matrix issues is a valid strategy that isnt neccecarily element specific
| 17:36:39 |
 @emma:rory.gay | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I am sceptical that that is a board with the power to stop Element implementing whatever they want and making it into a de facto standard. I guess the matrix.ort foundation cant stop element doing element things | 17:36:50 |
 emily | I did a lot of giving the ecosystem the benefit of the doubt from 2018 onwards | 17:37:22 |
| emily | unfortunately the benefit has expired :P | 17:37:27 |
| Dandellion | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
then I wonder why they don't just integrate the history into the scrollback This was part of the original design but never happened tm iirc | 17:37:53 |
| Dandellion | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
unfortunately the benefit has expired :P Yeah, it's totally understandable. This discontent has brewed for a loong time | 17:38:43 |
| emily | I mean, when I started using Matrix my attitude was "this could be the best thing ever, there's rough edges but as long as they focus on the fundamentals and get those polished up I'll go all-in" | 17:39:28 |
| emily | 7 years later… a couple of those rough edges have been polished? and the rest are either just as bad or got worse as a bunch of shaky feature development has been piled on top of crumbling foundations | 17:40:00 |
