| 16 Mar 2024 |
 hexa | took the chance to make its primary alias #users:nixos.org (in addition to the old #nix:nixos.org), which seems more fitting | 18:52:47 |
| hexa | there are likely lots of rooms affected, e.g. by @grahamc:nixos.org being an admin again, the room icon, name or topic missing | 18:54:08 |
|  K. Werty joined the room. | 19:02:31 |
|  @fundar:matrix.org joined the room. | 19:03:48 |
|  @2xsaiko:tchncs.de joined the room. | 19:04:58 |
|  Gavin R joined the room. | 19:05:15 |
|  ggpeti joined the room. | 19:05:35 |
|  dadada (er/ihm) joined the room. | 19:06:11 |
|  jesopo joined the room. | 19:07:13 |
| @fundar:matrix.org | Honestly discord seems like they got their shit together | 19:08:30 |
| ggpeti | Matrix is the email of chat. Handing out a business card with a matrix address is professional, handing out one with discord/zulip/mattermost or anything where the person has to register is not | 19:08:48 |
| @fundar:matrix.org | But people dislike that for some reasobn. | 19:08:48 |
| @fundar:matrix.org | Wat | 19:08:59 |
 @fractivore:cyberia.club | Noooo... What people dislike about discord is that they mine and sell all your private convos for data... | 19:09:13 |
| jesopo | i think it's more accurate to say that matrix wants to be the email of chat | 19:09:16 |
| @fundar:matrix.org | This is a room for nix, it can't get more degenerate than that | 19:09:22 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | No encryption support whatsoever | 19:09:24 |
| @fundar:matrix.org | Who cares about professionalism | 19:09:35 |
 @piegames:matrix.org | In reply to @fundar:matrix.org
Honestly discord seems like they got their shit together Discord is horrible for users in its very own ways | 19:10:01 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | Discord has it in their terms of service that they will turn your convos over to the US police, if they so much as ask. Not cool. Not a platform I want to support. | 19:10:04 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | And also a non-started, so no need to discuss that | 19:10:09 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | Zulip though is still not off the table, theoretically speaking | 19:10:28 |
| @fundar:matrix.org | What is non-started? | 19:10:38 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | * And also a non-starter, so no need to discuss that | 19:10:52 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | In reply to @fundar:matrix.org
What is non-started? typo | 19:10:56 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @fundar:matrix.org
What is non-started? Discord. It's not happening. There is broad community agreement that discord is not an option. | 19:11:01 |
| ggpeti | Very broad indeed | 19:11:12 |
| jesopo | In reply to @fractivore:cyberia.club
Discord has it in their terms of service that they will turn your convos over to the US police, if they so much as ask. Not cool. Not a platform I want to support. i dont like discord and i will advocate against free software projects using it, but.... to be a real company operating in a legal jurisdiction, you do actually have to honor valid legal requests | 19:12:23 |
| ggpeti | That's the thing though, please let's not rely on a company | 19:12:42 |
| jesopo | yes! i totally agree | 19:12:49 |
