| 20 Feb 2024 |
 @falaichte:techsaviours.org | If you want to ban fascism then you should ban communism and any other extreme idealogies. | 15:47:55 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | * If you want to ban fascism then you should ban discussion of communism and any other extreme idealogies. | 15:48:03 |
 @joepie91:pixie.town | and that is how you get nazis | 15:48:08 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | It's everything or nothing imo. | 15:48:12 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | which is why you don't do that | 15:48:15 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | In reply to@joepie91:pixie.town
and that is how you get nazis How you get Nazis is by trying to stamp them out with prejudice to the point where they can point the way you're treating them as vindication that they're being prosecuted for their beliefs. | 15:48:53 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | "getting rid of nazis" is one of the main ways I spend my time so you really do not have to 'educate' me on how to deal with them, I understand that perfectly well, and I also know how to identify them | 15:49:44 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | not that I have much choice in dealing with them, seeing as I tend to be one of their target groups for eradication | 15:50:23 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | so, y'know | 15:50:32 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | In reply to@joepie91:pixie.town
"getting rid of nazis" is one of the main ways I spend my time so you really do not have to 'educate' me on how to deal with them, I understand that perfectly well, and I also know how to identify them Did I pop up as a nazi or sympathizer to that idealogy then? | 15:51:44 |
 @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @falaichte:techsaviours.org
Did I pop up as a nazi or sympathizer to that idealogy then? You are giving off that vibe really hard, yeah | 15:52:32 |
 adamcstephens | Unless we’re going to keep this related to the nix matrix channels, perhaps it can go elsewhere (or nowhere as suggested above) | 15:52:36 |
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| @joepie91:pixie.town | Falaichte: do you want the honest answer? I do not know with certainty whether you consciously subscribe to the ideology, but you are certainly enabling it, and you've already thrown up several red flags over the days that suggest your views are not that far off | 15:52:53 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | and what I do know is that you do not disavow it, and that is frankly enough for me | 15:53:26 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @adam:robins.wtf
Unless we’re going to keep this related to the nix matrix channels, perhaps it can go elsewhere (or nowhere as suggested above) Well, I guess #offtopic:nixos.org 😆 | 15:53:30 |
| adamcstephens | This conversation is likely going nowhere constructive, so probably just ending it is the better option. | 15:54:05 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @adam:robins.wtf
This conversation is likely going nowhere constructive, so probably just ending it is the better option. Kinda how I'm feeling too | 15:54:19 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | The reason I asked is because I'm a pretty hardline libertarian and Egalitarian. When you're caught up in trying to exterminate an idealogy that hard you fail to realize that you've become very thing you've sore to radicate. | 15:55:06 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | It's why I like sending people in Antifa the spiderman pointing meme. | 15:55:18 |
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| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | Using authoritarianism to eradicate fascism makes you no better tbh. | 15:56:10 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | okay, so you didn't actually read and absorb a word of what I said, and were just hoping for an answer to respond to with a response you'd already previously cooked up and thought would sound like you're on the moral high horse | 15:56:23 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | got it | 15:56:24 |
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| @fractivore:cyberia.club | Yeah but a politics room doesn't mean "unmoderated" or "all viewpoints equally acceptable by our culture". It just means people have a way of avoiding potentially heated discussions like these, for example, if they want to focus on tech. I personally haven't seen politics rooms turn into nazi rooms and I'm in a few. | 16:07:49 |
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| @fractivore:cyberia.club | But if people are okay with them going in off topic and it isn't seriously bothering people, I guess it's not really an issue | 16:08:20 |
| adamcstephens | i'm not seeing how a dedicated politics room becomes any more of a nazi room than an off topic room that allows politics | 16:08:59 |
