| 1 Jun 2021 |
 colemickens 🏳️🌈 | Are we putting bridged Libera rooms into this space? | 21:06:08 |
| colemickens 🏳️🌈 | Either in its own category, or just intermingled, or both? | 21:06:25 |
 Leon | I’m not entirely up to date on what the current situation with NixOS Matrix and IRC room distribution is, but does it have to be either “Matrix” or “bridged IRC” (i.e. room created by the libera bridge)? Doesn’t it make more sense to create corresponding rooms on the Matrix side and then bridge those? | 21:09:10 |
 Alyssa Ross | I was given the impression that it'd be okay to have #specrum:libera.chat in the space, in the community section | 21:10:31 |
| Alyssa Ross | but I don't think Graham got to it yet | 21:10:43 |
| Leon | In reply to @leons:is.currently.online
I’m not entirely up to date on what the current situation with NixOS Matrix and IRC room distribution is, but does it have to be either “Matrix” or “bridged IRC” (i.e. room created by the libera bridge)? Doesn’t it make more sense to create corresponding rooms on the Matrix side and then bridge those? I realise that question might be better off in the Matrix suggestions room, sorry | 21:13:47 |
 sumner | In reply to @leons:is.currently.online
I realise that question might be better off in the Matrix suggestions room, sorry No, it's better here. This is the discussions room, the Matrix Suggestions room is meant to be lower volume. | 21:15:05 |
| Leon | Ahh, I got that completely wrong! | 21:15:31 |
| 2 Jun 2021 |
| sumner | https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/3173 has gone into FCP. This will be great as it, along with https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2946 will allow users to view non-world-readable rooms in the spaces summary. | 16:15:57 |
| sumner | * https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/3173 has gone into FCP. This will be great as it, along with https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2946, will allow users to view non-world-readable rooms in the spaces summary. | 16:16:04 |
|  fortuneteller2k changed their profile picture. | 16:31:17 |
|  ash joined the room. | 18:08:21 |
 fgaz | hexa: re your message in the other room: does this mean that all NixOS rooms have to be hosted on other homeservers? Or just community ones? | 21:28:20 |
| sumner | Rooms are not hosted on a server. They are replicated across all servers that have users in that room. | 21:29:21 |
| sumner | Aliases (like #thing:nicename.com) are just for ease-of-use. | 21:30:16 |
| fgaz | sumner: ah, I thought there also was a canonical server. A source of truth so to speak | 21:31:40 |
 Las | I don't get how room moderators and federation works together | 21:31:44 |
| fgaz | I guess it's kinda like how activitypub works? | 21:33:17 |
| fgaz | ie each server is the source of truth only for posts/messages by its members | 21:34:01 |
| sumner | Not quite. From what I understand there's a state DAG, and even if a server says that its users messages are good, but they aren't, then it will be rejected by the wider federation. The "How does it work" section is actually pretty good here: https://matrix.org/ | 21:35:37 |
|  red joined the room. | 22:37:40 |
 emily | yeah, it's more like everyone collaborates on one eventually-consistent graph | 23:23:29 |
| emily | In reply to @fgaz:matrix.org
hexa: re your message in the other room: does this mean that all NixOS rooms have to be hosted on other homeservers? Or just community ones? if nixos.org died right now, the only thing that would change is that the :nixos.org room aliases would break | 23:23:56 |
| emily | (since nobody actually in the rooms is using a nixos.org matrix account afaik) | 23:24:05 |
| emily | the rooms would still exist and be fully operable with their current administrators etc. | 23:24:17 |
| emily | now, if matrix.org died, that would be interesting, since I wouldn't be surprised if all the administrators had :matrix.org accounts :) | 23:24:33 |
 hexa | lots of rooms have only admins on :nixos.org right now | 23:24:41 |
| hexa | that's not exactly a great situation | 23:24:47 |
| emily | oh huh | 23:24:52 |
 kevincox | It would be good to get admins on different servers. | 23:24:59 |
