| 2 Jun 2021 |
 sumner | * https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/3173 has gone into FCP. This will be great as it, along with https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2946, will allow users to view non-world-readable rooms in the spaces summary. | 16:16:04 |
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 fgaz | hexa: re your message in the other room: does this mean that all NixOS rooms have to be hosted on other homeservers? Or just community ones? | 21:28:20 |
| sumner | Rooms are not hosted on a server. They are replicated across all servers that have users in that room. | 21:29:21 |
| sumner | Aliases (like #thing:nicename.com) are just for ease-of-use. | 21:30:16 |
| fgaz | sumner: ah, I thought there also was a canonical server. A source of truth so to speak | 21:31:40 |
 Las | I don't get how room moderators and federation works together | 21:31:44 |
| fgaz | I guess it's kinda like how activitypub works? | 21:33:17 |
| fgaz | ie each server is the source of truth only for posts/messages by its members | 21:34:01 |
| sumner | Not quite. From what I understand there's a state DAG, and even if a server says that its users messages are good, but they aren't, then it will be rejected by the wider federation. The "How does it work" section is actually pretty good here: https://matrix.org/ | 21:35:37 |
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 emily | yeah, it's more like everyone collaborates on one eventually-consistent graph | 23:23:29 |
| emily | In reply to @fgaz:matrix.org
hexa: re your message in the other room: does this mean that all NixOS rooms have to be hosted on other homeservers? Or just community ones? if nixos.org died right now, the only thing that would change is that the :nixos.org room aliases would break | 23:23:56 |
| emily | (since nobody actually in the rooms is using a nixos.org matrix account afaik) | 23:24:05 |
| emily | the rooms would still exist and be fully operable with their current administrators etc. | 23:24:17 |
| emily | now, if matrix.org died, that would be interesting, since I wouldn't be surprised if all the administrators had :matrix.org accounts :) | 23:24:33 |
 hexa | lots of rooms have only admins on :nixos.org right now | 23:24:41 |
| hexa | that's not exactly a great situation | 23:24:47 |
| emily | oh huh | 23:24:52 |
 kevincox | It would be good to get admins on different servers. | 23:24:59 |
| hexa | (like this one) | 23:25:02 |
| emily | ok I thought "we can't give out :nixos.org accounts because of the $10/month user limits" meant "nobody gets :nixos.org accounts", not "the most special people get them", sorry :p | 23:25:13 |
| emily | so yeah, it would probably be a good long-term futureproofing idea to have backup admins in the rooms I guess | 23:25:29 |
| hexa | graham and eelco have one account on nixos.org each | 23:25:30 |
| kevincox | Well we need a couple of people with nixos.org accounts to manage the aliases and room directory for nixos.org | 23:25:37 |
| hexa | three are "free", but that doesn't mean they will be used | 23:25:43 |
| emily | yeah, admin is unavoidable | 23:25:46 |
| hexa | the homeserver on nixos.org is just for the control over the namespace | 23:25:57 |
| emily | can a foreign-homeserver user not be admin in a homeserver for managing aliases and stuff? that's a bit sad | 23:26:02 |
