| 28 May 2025 |
 uep | it's covered. Thanks, but really, it's time to move on to another topic | 07:28:28 |
 @x10an14:matrix.org | In reply to @uep:matrix.org
https://github.com/NixOS/moderation/blob/main/matrix/adding-rooms.md Thank you! I could not find any documentation on this when I looked for it, I'll have a read through and avoid re-iterating covered points =) | 07:29:59 |
| uep | it's well hidden! mostly because it was originally more an internal process for the steps to take | 07:31:15 |
| @x10an14:matrix.org | In reply to @uep:matrix.org
it's well hidden! mostly because it was originally more an internal process for the steps to take Having skimmed through, what is it you think is a well covered point?
I'm asking with https://matrix.to/#/!GsmxjHfeAYLsTEQmjS:nixos.org/$HIiVVBJwXGv2Z2fF8cHs0gs4ux5E16pGSXZztnOpmtk?via=nixos.org&via=matrix.org&via=nixos.dev in mind
| 07:32:21 |
| uep | but, in short, the steps as already outlined in the initial conversation are what you need to do.. set up the room, make the request, and walk through the steps of adding the moderation bot and so on with us. | 07:32:59 |
| @x10an14:matrix.org | In reply to @uep:matrix.org
but, in short, the steps as already outlined in the initial conversation are what you need to do.. set up the room, make the request, and walk through the steps of adding the moderation bot and so on with us. All right, thanks, but has there maybe been a misunderstanding? My understanding was that the current topic of conversation was the question posed in the comment I linked, not " how to" | 07:33:51 |
| uep | yes, we already have other rooms where there are local mods as native speakers, and they (or anyone else in the room) can come to us for help. | 07:34:22 |
| uep | I'm saying that there is no requirement for us in the mod team to speak all languages, or to restrict channels to use only languages in which the mod team is fluent. | 07:35:20 |
| uep | if the channel gets large enough, we may recruit someone into the mod team, as we did earlier this year for the .cn conversations | 07:36:08 |
| uep | take a look at the nix RU channel, there are like 10 channel-local mods there | 07:38:05 |
| @x10an14:matrix.org | In reply to @uep:matrix.org
I'm saying that there is no requirement for us in the mod team to speak all languages, or to restrict channels to use only languages in which the mod team is fluent. Okay, gotcha. Just to confirm my understanding, you mean by this then that the alluded to need of 24/7 moderation is something that there can be leniency with for smaller/language specific channels? =)
That bit was not clear to me, you see 😅
| 07:38:14 |
| uep | (as it happens we do have a russian speaker on the team, but that channel clearly needs some additional special management of its own for whatever reason) | 07:38:40 |
| @x10an14:matrix.org | In reply to @x10an14:matrix.org
Okay, gotcha. Just to confirm my understanding, you mean by this then that the alluded to need of 24/7 moderation is something that there can be leniency with for smaller/language specific channels? =)
That bit was not clear to me, you see 😅
*is a policy that there can be leniency with | 07:38:46 |
| uep | "alluded to" is the issue | 07:41:41 |
| uep | The only 24/7 coverage is for the bot. We human members of the mod team try to do our best, but there's no on-call roster and shifts or anything like what was alluded to. | 07:45:53 |
| uep | there are somewhat over 180 channels monitored by the bot | 07:46:52 |
| uep | Nobody's reading all of that, no matter what language it's in. If there are issues, you'll need to bring it to our attention if they can't be resolved internally | 07:47:52 |
| @x10an14:matrix.org | All right! I understand your answer then to say that "best effort from human moderators as soon as they're aware to ie. remove CSAM" is consdered "good enough" for now, when it comes to applications of adding new channels to the nixos.org namespace =)
Please correct me if I'm wrong =D | 07:48:04 |
| uep | the bot is currently set to remove all images posted, because of that. it's terribly inconvenient, but unfortunately necessary for now | 07:48:52 |
| uep | if it misses something, let us know asap.. but for the most part the spammers only target the largest rooms with thousands of users | 07:49:35 |
| uep | the spammers usually get added to one of the shared banlists quickly, sometimes by us if we get hit first | 07:50:25 |
| uep | other than that, the issues are likely to be more "someone being a dick". again, let us know, even if they're being a dick in norwegian or gaelic or greek | 07:51:16 |
 eyJhb | Are there shared banlists? | 07:58:04 |
 K900 | In reply to @eyjhb:eyjhb.dk
Are there shared banlists? Yes | 08:00:20 |
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| @gigahawk:matrix.org | Any chance I can get an invite to the new room? | 19:16:36 |
| K900 | Sent | 19:23:17 |
| @gigahawk:matrix.org | thanks, leaving now | 19:23:37 |
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