| 11 Aug 2025 |
 emily | perhaps with a public beta period or something | 18:02:25 |
| emily | I have relatively little experience with Zulip, so you may already know everything you need to know from your own use | 18:02:43 |
| emily | but I think moderation tooling is a big question | 18:02:48 |
| emily | and I don't know the exact needs of the mod team in that regard | 18:02:56 |
| emily | hmm does that ❌️ mean anything important? probably fine to tag the release anyway! | 18:04:06 |
| emily | can always roll a .3! | 18:04:22 |
| emily | oh they cancelled the jobs I guess | 18:04:47 |
| emily | so maybe the latest run will actually pass if they're lucky | 18:05:04 |
 Charles | lmao | 18:06:52 |
| Charles | yeah the plan for my instance is to require admin approval for signups via sso, so this is less of a problem for me in particular, but definitely important for a use case like nixos | 18:07:39 |
| Charles | so i haven't explored the available tools yet | 18:07:51 |
| emily | right | 18:08:00 |
| emily | well if uep is still interested and you feel like putting work into poking at stuff then I encourage you to | 18:08:19 |
| Charles | i think i'm going to be pretty busy over the next few weeks before i can start doing much about this aside from like investigating the state of zulip moderation tooling | 18:13:41 |
| emily | well maybe we'll get lucky and the Matrix will explode before that point | 18:14:08 |
| emily | like how Andrew Lee brought us to this cursed platform in the first place | 18:14:18 |
| Charles | lol | 18:14:53 |
| Charles | i mean i think matrix at least still has value for private rooms | 18:15:15 |
| Charles | public rooms not so much though | 18:15:21 |
 @lotte:chir.rs | In reply to @zhaofeng:zhaofeng.li
they are fixing it live it seems: https://github.com/element-hq/synapse/compare/v1.135.1...v1.135.2 “please pay for our software that probably has the same shit QA” | 18:15:39 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | * “please pay for the pro version of our software that probably has the same shit QA” | 18:15:47 |
 Gnuxie 💜🐝 | i don't see how that's true | 18:15:59 |
| emily | freenode imploding was what took NixOS from "considering a move to Matrix, there's a drawn-out RFC, who knows what will happen" to "guess we're moving to Matrix literally Right Now" | 18:16:38 |
| emily | (as I recall. it was years ago, so my memory could be fuzzy. I do know that the NixOS IRC channels were alive and well right up until The Events transpired.) | 18:17:09 |
 Cat | Tbh in my view while Lee is a villan he did achive a great public service. | 18:17:40 |
| emily | IIRC, it was that or Libera and the judgement call to go all-in on the Matrix switch was made | 18:17:42 |
| emily | I thought it a good idea at the time; in retrospect, I'd rather have had Libera | 18:17:58 |
| Cat | made everyone wake up to that if your community doesnt control its infra and said infra is irreplaceable the damage can be fucking extreme. | 18:18:11 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | ok | 18:18:34 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | sorry, i didn't realise that "us" was specific to nixos | 18:18:50 |
