| 20 Feb 2024 |
 @falaichte:techsaviours.org | Discussion that is unironically better suited for #Nix Offtopic. | 15:45:52 |
 @joepie91:pixie.town | it is very much a matter of moderation policy and community culture | 15:46:05 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | ie. if your community is unable to have constructive political discussions, then that is a sign that there is a problem with your community's moderation and/or culture, not that political discussion itself is the problem | 15:46:54 |
 @fractivore:cyberia.club | Yeah but I actually do support a politics room because people like to be able to avoid these discussions and that's their right tbh | 15:46:59 |
 Dandellion | This conversation is not going to bring any change to the off-topic rules, or the creation of any new matrix rooms. It is now indeed a moderation and governance issue | 15:47:33 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | Far as community culture goes, my stance is that everyone and everything should be treated equally without any bias in either direction. | 15:47:41 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | If you want to ban fascism then you should ban communism and any other extreme idealogies. | 15:47:55 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | * If you want to ban fascism then you should ban discussion of communism and any other extreme idealogies. | 15:48:03 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | and that is how you get nazis | 15:48:08 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | It's everything or nothing imo. | 15:48:12 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | which is why you don't do that | 15:48:15 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | In reply to@joepie91:pixie.town
and that is how you get nazis How you get Nazis is by trying to stamp them out with prejudice to the point where they can point the way you're treating them as vindication that they're being prosecuted for their beliefs. | 15:48:53 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | "getting rid of nazis" is one of the main ways I spend my time so you really do not have to 'educate' me on how to deal with them, I understand that perfectly well, and I also know how to identify them | 15:49:44 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | not that I have much choice in dealing with them, seeing as I tend to be one of their target groups for eradication | 15:50:23 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | so, y'know | 15:50:32 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | In reply to@joepie91:pixie.town
"getting rid of nazis" is one of the main ways I spend my time so you really do not have to 'educate' me on how to deal with them, I understand that perfectly well, and I also know how to identify them Did I pop up as a nazi or sympathizer to that idealogy then? | 15:51:44 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @falaichte:techsaviours.org
Did I pop up as a nazi or sympathizer to that idealogy then? You are giving off that vibe really hard, yeah | 15:52:32 |
 adamcstephens | Unless we’re going to keep this related to the nix matrix channels, perhaps it can go elsewhere (or nowhere as suggested above) | 15:52:36 |
|  @emma:rory.gay joined the room. | 15:52:42 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | Falaichte: do you want the honest answer? I do not know with certainty whether you consciously subscribe to the ideology, but you are certainly enabling it, and you've already thrown up several red flags over the days that suggest your views are not that far off | 15:52:53 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | and what I do know is that you do not disavow it, and that is frankly enough for me | 15:53:26 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @adam:robins.wtf
Unless we’re going to keep this related to the nix matrix channels, perhaps it can go elsewhere (or nowhere as suggested above) Well, I guess #offtopic:nixos.org 😆 | 15:53:30 |
| adamcstephens | This conversation is likely going nowhere constructive, so probably just ending it is the better option. | 15:54:05 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @adam:robins.wtf
This conversation is likely going nowhere constructive, so probably just ending it is the better option. Kinda how I'm feeling too | 15:54:19 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | The reason I asked is because I'm a pretty hardline libertarian and Egalitarian. When you're caught up in trying to exterminate an idealogy that hard you fail to realize that you've become very thing you've sore to radicate. | 15:55:06 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | It's why I like sending people in Antifa the spiderman pointing meme. | 15:55:18 |
|  @mjm:beeper.com joined the room. | 15:55:20 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | Using authoritarianism to eradicate fascism makes you no better tbh. | 15:56:10 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | okay, so you didn't actually read and absorb a word of what I said, and were just hoping for an answer to respond to with a response you'd already previously cooked up and thought would sound like you're on the moral high horse | 15:56:23 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | got it | 15:56:24 |
