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19 Jul 2025
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping)so yeah15:43:15
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesew15:43:20
@k900:0upti.meK900 It is bad 15:43:36
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping) you think its a bad idea as well? 15:43:36
@k900:0upti.meK900For one it doesn't have sync15:43:43
@k900:0upti.meK900Which is insane15:43:45
@k900:0upti.meK900Well it doesn't have an equivalent to what Matrix calls sync15:44:04
@k900:0upti.meK900i.e. "give me everything I've missed"15:44:10
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping)hmm15:44:16
@k900:0upti.meK900 You have to either listen on the websocket permanently 15:44:18
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesthe main thing i know about discord's API is the sheer number of people it has burned out on working with discord15:44:18
@k900:0upti.meK900Or you have to poll every single room15:44:29
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping)i see15:44:45
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping)you can talk to the devs in their discord, or theres a bridged irc, if you have feedback https://discord.gg/rppR56dA15:44:46
@k900:0upti.meK900Honestly? I don't care enough to do that15:45:13
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping)okay15:45:35
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping) they say "it will be way easier than on matrix." 15:45:42
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesi don't believe that15:46:08
@k900:0upti.meK900There's people I trust a lot more to do protocol design for this15:46:15
@k900:0upti.meK900(and it's mostly people who got burned by Matrix and know the issues with that)15:46:24
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping)well nobody is, afaik15:46:37
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping) i asked if they are seperate identities, and they say "they are, but you can migrate to another username rather easily, and you get to keep all your stuff (messages, room memberships, etc.)" 15:46:59
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping)* well nobody else actually is making a new protocol15:47:17
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesi think they have not thought about the problem very hard then15:47:20
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesor they have actual magic15:47:35
@k900:0upti.meK900https://polyproto.org/docs/protocols/core#71-identity-migration15:47:44
@k900:0upti.meK900They're doing the bluesky thing15:47:48
@quadradical:federated.nexusQuadRadical (Ping)i mean olivia is in the discord too so i would assume they would have also thought of these same problems that matrix had15:47:49
@k900:0upti.meK900Where you basically just tombstone your old account15:47:54
@k900:0upti.meK900And it exists forever15:48:45

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