| 18 Jul 2025 |
 @emma:rory.gay | i dont like the idea of matrix being centralised but i do appreciate being at least somewhat able to cover the usecase via policy servers | 18:31:01 |
 emily | In reply to @gnu_ponut:matrix.org
it's true but that's not going to happen overnight oh for sure. I appreciate the work you put in | 18:36:41 |
| emily | I was only talking in the context of Charles expressing a desire for a differently-shaped protocol which I agree with | 18:37:11 |
 QuadRadical (Ping) | ive got my eye on polyproto | 19:16:47 |
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| 19 Jul 2025 |
| @emma:rory.gay | i dont | 08:43:15 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | why? | 13:40:22 |
 Charles | good question, the main things i see are that it repeats this mistake https://polyproto.org/docs/protocols/core#5-federation-ids-fids and also has a very discord model, whereas i think matrix's insight that everything can be modeled as different types of rooms was a good idea | 15:36:31 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | i kind of agree with you about the discord thing, about repeating the mistake, what is the mistake there? | 15:39:51 |
| Charles | human-readable identifiers | 15:40:06 |
| Charles | consider: trans people | 15:40:10 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | huh | 15:40:25 |
| Charles | changing your FID will likely be a massive pain in the ass like it is on matrix | 15:40:43 |
| Charles | this is bad | 15:40:48 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | ah interesting | 15:40:49 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | ill ask | 15:40:50 |
| Charles | likely the answer you'll get is "different FIDs are considered different identities" just like in matrix | 15:41:31 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | ive asked we will see but that makes sense yeah | 15:41:33 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | maybe | 15:41:53 |
 K900 | Honestly I am extremely worried by the idea of "let's just copy Discord's API" | 15:41:56 |
| K900 | Because not only is the Discord API only really supported by Discord clients | 15:42:04 |
| K900 | Which you can't use with your Discord clone anyway | 15:42:09 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | flori is very open to feedback for this stuff so its worth stopping by and talking to them a bit | 15:42:11 |
| K900 | But it's also fucking terrible | 15:42:14 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | also spacebar clients | 15:42:17 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | spacebar clients will likely be compatable with polyphony with only a little modification | 15:42:33 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | i did ask about this as well, i was told its not that bad, but idk | 15:42:45 |
| Charles | oh is it straight up a copy | 15:42:57 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | its api compatable with spacebar, which is api compatable with discord | 15:43:14 |
