| 23 May 2025 |
 Gnuxie 💜🐝 | https://marewolf.me/posts/draupnir/25/02.html#priorities-a-focus-on-on-boarding-users | 10:02:31 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | * | 10:03:49 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | the bigger issue is just proactively getting access to events to stop flooding | 10:04:08 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | from new users | 10:04:17 |
 emily | (these three messages, FWIW) | 10:05:11 |
| emily | ah, but I guess you read them :) | 10:05:19 |
| emily | "but the only have to implement the event forwarding and not the policy server itself" → that's precisely the concern wrt centralization/SPOF right? | 10:05:33 |
| emily | hm, ok. | 10:05:49 |
| emily | then the Matrix blog presentation of the feature confuses me somewhat | 10:05:59 |
| emily | since they explicitly say "In short, they're servers on the internet where you can send events to and have them be checked for spam/illegal imagery/etc." | 10:06:31 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | yeah they intend to use them differently to me I think | 10:06:49 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | and the point is they enable people to make tools for proactive checks | 10:08:00 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | whether those tools are made is something else | 10:08:10 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | since fundamentally it is impossible in matrix atm | 10:08:24 |
| emily | right. well I agree that there needs to be a blocking kind of moderation and that reactive approaches are hopeless, yeah | 10:08:26 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | * since fundamentally it is impossible in matrix atm without policy servers | 10:08:37 |
| emily | in my view, it's not really a good thing for NixOS that rooms are independent of homeserver | 10:08:46 |
| emily | the split-brain issues we've had, and the reactive-only moderation, are things that wouldn't be an issue if nixos.org was authoritative for our rooms | 10:09:10 |
| emily | and the benefits we gain from federation are from users being able to be on different homeservers, not the rooms being distributed across homeservers | 10:09:28 |
| emily | of course this may not be the case for all communities | 10:09:35 |
