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24 May 2025
@uep:matrix.orguep you could try #nixos-on-arm:nixos.org perhaps. 09:13:24
@asshall:matrix.orgasshallCheers m8 !09:13:38
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhave we considered allowing images in invite-only rooms?09:35:50
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywe haven't had any instances of spammers getting in there, right?09:35:56
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe open ones would still prohibit it ofc09:36:04
@uep:matrix.orguepthe problem is that mjolnir config is all or nothing09:36:16
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyah.09:36:23
@cat:feline.supportCat
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
have we considered allowing images in invite-only rooms?
The bot is all or nothing and this isn’t even a Mjolnir unique flaw
09:36:49
@cat:feline.supportCat It’s all of them 09:36:56
@uep:matrix.orguep(afaik this doesn't change for draupnir either, I think that was one of the things I looked for as differences)09:37:15
@uep:matrix.orguepwe'd need to run 2 instances or something09:37:29
@uep:matrix.orguep
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
ah.
evergreen reaction
09:38:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI actually suddenly guessed that that was it right after sending my messages.09:38:31
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe Matrix-understanding neurons in my brain fired belatedly.09:38:43
@uep:matrix.orguepit's not even matrix specifically09:39:09
@uep:matrix.orguepthere's just no facility for room-specific policy in the protections09:40:21
@gnu_ponut:matrix.orgGnuxie πŸ’œπŸ that's right, you'll also find the protections aren't amazing either 09:44:31
@uep:matrix.orguep

At some point, we may end up with a setup that looks roughly like:

  • nixos protected rooms inside a space, available to space members only, with one set of bot protections from one bot
  • a "lobby" or other similar public room, where people can come to join the space, with more restrictive protections from another bot, and some way to get invited to the space after satisfying reasonable criteria
09:44:55
@uep:matrix.orguepbut.. ugh, there really should be a better way09:45:27
@uep:matrix.orguepand it's not even clear to me that this will work reasonably for users unless more clients support spaces09:45:50
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilydoes Draupnir support per-room plicy?09:46:07
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily* does Draupnir support per-room policy?09:46:08
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily oh, I guess Cat implied no 09:46:15
@gnu_ponut:matrix.orgGnuxie πŸ’œπŸ
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
does Draupnir support per-room plicy?
no
09:46:22
@uep:matrix.orguepnope.09:46:42
@gnu_ponut:matrix.orgGnuxie πŸ’œπŸ and it likely never will 09:46:52
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think we can just point people to the entrance room on the website etc., and link to the space from that09:46:55
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe space just acts like a room if your client doesn't support spaces, AFAIK09:47:03
@uep:matrix.orgueppart of it is simply that they store that config as custom events in a special admin room, but it's still just laziness in the implementation of that09:47:42
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut also this sucks – people can join the unofficial Discords in two clicks. do we really want to cede the ground of a place people can actually quickly ask a Nix question to them?09:47:44

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