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23 May 2025
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Liwell... it really was a suggestion it seems: https://matrix.to/#/!RRerllqmbATpmbJgCn:nixos.org/$pf1TnO4aW5L5gepckLQ0Q2LOZGPMvlbxIhqmSM6a6Wo?via=lossy.network&via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de08:42:28
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li* well... it really was a suggestion it seems (the read markers moved so other homeservers accepted it): https://matrix.to/#/!RRerllqmbATpmbJgCn:nixos.org/$pf1TnO4aW5L5gepckLQ0Q2LOZGPMvlbxIhqmSM6a6Wo?via=lossy.network&via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de08:43:05
@k900:0upti.meK900 Was it? Check the origin timestamp 08:45:59
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyare we looking at the same message?08:47:52
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily it's by Zhaofeng Li and it says "(power level test, please ignore)". 08:47:55
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily I'm not sure why one would send that befor power level changes. 08:48:02
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily * I'm not sure why one would send that before power level changes. 08:48:04
@k900:0upti.meK900I am not actually in the room08:48:06
@k900:0upti.meK900But it's also possible it's split08:48:15
@k900:0upti.meK900You need to check the auth chain08:48:19
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's from a few minutes ago, also08:48:19
@k900:0upti.meK900To see what the power level events are08:48:25
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li

it really was, and I broke the power level restrictions just now again

the old message I was referring to:

origin_server_ts     | 1747972471777
received_ts          | 1747972475370
08:48:34
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut yeah I imagine it's just split08:48:37
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI mean we know it's split08:48:41
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily the tombstone didn't get delivered to matrix.org until uep redid it 08:48:47
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I think you can. iirc someone in here (magic_rb?) mentioned disabling media stuff
I have a patch, its not amazing,i ll share it once i finish my coffee
08:48:55
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li but my client (element desktop) shows that sending message requires moderator power level, so my homeserver should have blocked me from sending it in the first place 08:49:36
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li * but my client (element desktop) shows that sending message requires moderator power level, so my homeserver knows about it and should have blocked me from sending it in the first place 08:49:48
@k900:0upti.meK900It is entirely possible for your client to be out of sync with your homeserver08:50:10
@k900:0upti.meK900As insane as that sounds08:50:20
@uep:matrix.orguepoh, for sure. I had two clients, same account, seeing different things08:53:34
@uep:matrix.orguepit did, because I'm on matrix.org and saw the first one08:54:14
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit uh, didn't for me08:54:25
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhich should be impossible?08:54:29
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyoh. okay. lovely.08:54:41
@uep:matrix.orguepbut fractal saw the permission for post at 50, element saw it at 0.08:54:41
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI hate it.08:54:49
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily so Matrix is actually distributed and not federated, but only in ways that break things? 08:54:56
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI thought you just trusted your homeserver.08:55:01

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