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23 May 2025
@sepiabrown:matrix.orgSuwon Park joined the room.08:17:13
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
so, uh, I guess the safe advice is stop running a homeserver?
Is there a way to disable media "processing" on one's homeserver? I know there may not be a clean way to do this, but I guess even nginx block rules may be better than nothing
08:19:23
@dgrig:erethon.comdgrigWhat I do is have remote media have a very small TTL, so they're deleted within the day automatically and at the same time have enabled authenticated media, so a non user of my HS can't access media stored in my server.08:19:28
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng LiPeople were talking about blocking invites on nginx, and I suppose media is another thing people would want to block 🤷‍♂️08:20:17
@sepiabrown:matrix.orgSuwon ParkHello~ Can I get an invitation to the new NixOS room?08:20:31
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li

also how did this message get through in the old #users room?

https://matrix.to/#/!RRerllqmbATpmbJgCn:nixos.org/$o6fZtlcepowuBtqDA5rLijG3DmfO3kTqNQhI5bJUpCU?via=lossy.network&via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de

08:27:47
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
a thing Matrix famously has a track record for completing on time and without issues?
Yeah, that's why I insist that viability of Matrix long-term should be questioned
08:28:39
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily I think you can. iirc someone in here (magic_rb?) mentioned disabling media stuff 08:29:03
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyou can also block the invite endpoint08:29:08
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think nobody thinks Matrix is good at this point, there's just lack of agreement about whether a viable alternative exists.08:29:27
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI'd still prefer Zulip out of all the options, I think.08:29:37
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I think nobody thinks Matrix is good at this point, there's just lack of agreement about whether a viable alternative exists.
Yeah, and a lack of agreement if sticking to the horrors of Matrix wins over the costs of migrating to (theoretical) alternative
08:33:49
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)The lack of agreements are certainly a pattern in a meta way, too...08:34:49
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)* The lack of agreements is certainly a pattern in a meta way, too...08:35:02
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Lihonestly I shouldn't have bothered to look, but if power levels are just a suggestion then maybe matrix moderation just doesn't work08:38:15
@k900:0upti.meK900Power levels are not a suggestion08:38:36
@k900:0upti.meK900It's just an old message08:38:40
@k900:0upti.meK900That has not federated previously08:38:44
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Liit was way after the power level restrictions were changed (actually rechanged)08:39:43
@uep:matrix.orguepand the room state is rather messed up and probably out of sync, which is why it was re-made already08:39:43
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Liwell... it really was a suggestion it seems: https://matrix.to/#/!RRerllqmbATpmbJgCn:nixos.org/$pf1TnO4aW5L5gepckLQ0Q2LOZGPMvlbxIhqmSM6a6Wo?via=lossy.network&via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de08:42:28
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li* well... it really was a suggestion it seems (the read markers moved so other homeservers accepted it): https://matrix.to/#/!RRerllqmbATpmbJgCn:nixos.org/$pf1TnO4aW5L5gepckLQ0Q2LOZGPMvlbxIhqmSM6a6Wo?via=lossy.network&via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de08:43:05
@k900:0upti.meK900 Was it? Check the origin timestamp 08:45:59
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyare we looking at the same message?08:47:52
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily it's by Zhaofeng Li and it says "(power level test, please ignore)". 08:47:55
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily I'm not sure why one would send that befor power level changes. 08:48:02
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily * I'm not sure why one would send that before power level changes. 08:48:04
@k900:0upti.meK900I am not actually in the room08:48:06
@k900:0upti.meK900But it's also possible it's split08:48:15
@k900:0upti.meK900You need to check the auth chain08:48:19

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