| 22 May 2025 |
 emily | one sec | 06:45:46 |
| emily | lol | 06:46:13 |
| emily | guess what link Element gave me? | 06:46:18 |
| emily | https://matrix.to/#/#offtopic:nixos.org | 06:46:21 |
|  watersucks joined the room. | 06:46:35 |
| emily | !sgkZKRutwatDMkYBHU:nixos.org | 06:46:39 |
| emily | activity seems to have died down though, but for a while we basically had two offtopics | 06:46:48 |
| emily | search continuity is nice though | 06:47:11 |
 uep | Redacted or Malformed Event | 06:49:17 |
|  UlyssesZhan joined the room. | 06:51:04 |
| uep | looks like I won't be able to do much there.. I'm not shown as a mod and neither is mjolnir | 06:51:07 |
| emily | no worries | 06:51:22 |
|  pydera joined the room. | 06:52:37 |
|  jaywimbie joined the room. | 06:53:08 |
|  MangoIV joined the room. | 06:53:38 |
 Zhaofeng Li | interesting, this is new: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9nDosRQp/old-room-notification.png | 06:54:02 |
| Zhaofeng Li | so spam opportunities would remain if the old rooms weren't restricted | 06:54:43 |
| uep | the spec does suggest the pl change that was apparently done | 06:57:01 |
| uep |
If possible, the power levels in the old room should also be modified to prevent sending of events and inviting new users. For example, setting events_default and invite to the greater of 50 and users_default + 1.
| 06:57:21 |
| uep | *
If possible, the power levels in the old room should also be modified to prevent sending of events and inviting new users. For example, setting events_default and invite to the greater of 50 and users_default + 1.
| 06:57:28 |
| uep | but in this case it seemingly didn't replicate fully, just like the tombstone itself | 06:57:59 |
| uep | and of course, tombstones are just events that clients have to process | 06:58:15 |
| uep | basically a 302 | 06:58:34 |
| Zhaofeng Li | all glitches in the matrix 🙃 | 06:58:45 |
| Zhaofeng Li | btw it looks like events that violate power restrictions are treated as "soft failures"
https://spec.matrix.org/v1.9/server-server-api/#soft-failure | 06:59:22 |
| Zhaofeng Li | so... DoS opportunities? | 06:59:39 |
 Cat | Depends on how they violate powerlevel restrictions. | 07:00:15 |
 K900 | Not any more than spamming any normal PDU | 07:00:24 |
| uep | yeah, there's also a feed for those | 07:00:25 |
| Cat | Because soft failure is only for events that COULD be legal. | 07:00:28 |
