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22 May 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think you can /devtools06:39:32
@f0x:pixie.townf0x might also have to be enabled in labs/settings somewhere else, not entirely sure 06:40:02
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhmm I just sent a custom event here and nothing showed up06:40:14
@uep:matrix.orguepwell, not in the room that's been tombstoned, because there's no input box :facepal;06:40:21
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilycan you have secret conversations nobody using normal clients can see or do homeservers filter them out?06:40:24
@uep:matrix.orguep * 06:40:28
@uep:matrix.orguep
In reply to @f0x:pixie.town
might also have to be enabled in labs/settings somewhere else, not entirely sure
yeah that's what i can't find.
06:40:52
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily /devtools itself has a switch 06:41:08
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI don't know where the tools show up in the UI if you toggle it on06:41:17
@f0x:pixie.townf0x
In reply to @uep:matrix.org
well, not in the room that's been tombstoned, because there's no input box :facepal;
oh right lol, then you'd need to send it directly through the API, I can help with that later
06:41:21
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyoh, bottom-left cog06:41:22
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily so /devtools → switch it on → go to room → bottom-left cog 06:41:30
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyso easy!06:41:41
@uep:matrix.orguepyeah, looks like they moved the "developer mode" toggle into this panel06:42:15
@f0x:pixie.townf0x
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
can you have secret conversations nobody using normal clients can see or do homeservers filter them out?
yes, sending new/custom event types is an explicit goal for Matrix. Element can be configure to always show (unknown) events in the timeline stil though
06:42:17
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyright. I think I used to have that turned on06:42:29
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut it seems like an abuse vector. you can smuggle illegal content into rooms that the mods probably won't see?06:42:42
@f0x:pixie.townf0x
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
but it seems like an abuse vector. you can smuggle illegal content into rooms that the mods probably won't see?
not sure how much you'd gain by doing that instead of just creating a new room
06:43:48
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyfair06:43:56
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily it worked!! thank you uep 06:44:11
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywanna do the same to the old offtopic too?06:44:14
@uep:matrix.orguepresent tombstone06:44:18
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythat gets a fair bit of traffic as well06:44:20
@uep:matrix.orguepgot a link / room id handy?06:44:54

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