| 12 Aug 2025 |
 Gnuxie 💜🐝 | it shifted for good reason | 14:54:51 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | and it is the first time that they have made protocol changes like this since room versions became a thing | 14:55:09 |
 Charles | if only you knew the things i knew | 14:56:29 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | well you can just tell me | 14:56:44 |
| Charles | i think you would be a lot less enthusiastic about defending matrix | 14:56:46 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | and i encourage you to do so | 14:56:50 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | in dms | 14:56:54 |
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| matthewcroughan | K900: all of the postmarket/mobile linux people are upgrading their rooms | 12:29:49 |
| matthewcroughan | NixOS is not being as proactive as them, is there a reason? | 12:29:59 |
 K900 | Good for them, I guess | 12:30:14 |
| matthewcroughan | I remember you mentioned that the security stuff was perhaps overblown, is it still the view you take? | 12:30:21 |
| K900 | Yes, and we still have tons of users that are not patched, and Draupnir | 12:31:04 |
| matthewcroughan | True, but users will never patch unless we are proactive don't you think | 12:31:21 |
| K900 | And the security stuff is overblown, as is the efficiency of mitigation | 12:31:33 |
| matthewcroughan | Alright fair, just wanted to know, thanks for informing | 12:32:15 |
 c-x-berger | Efficiency or efficacy? | 12:32:39 |
| K900 | Efficacy, sorry, brain bad | 12:33:05 |
 dgrig | If it's any help with setting some context, even the matrix foundation wont update its rooms until September where more people will have upgraded their servers and clients | 12:33:10 |
