| 11 Aug 2025 |
 Charles | i ended up setting up my own zulip instance that i've primarily been using fwiw | 17:52:44 |
 K900 | But it does mean that the create event is now uniquely special | 17:52:47 |
 emily | so you're saying even older room versions get to have an omnipotent creator! | 17:53:04 |
 ma27 | In reply to @emma:rory.gay
element matthew isnt here... lol too busy building a metaverse into matrix I heard | 17:53:16 |
| emily | is grapevine still a going concern? | 17:53:44 |
 @aloisw:julia0815.de | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
Well the vuln seems to be "you can force well-behaved servers to roll back to any previous room state" So their "availability at all costs" approach doesn't even give you availability, great. | 17:54:03 |
| Charles | we're working on implementing room v12, it's just slow going | 17:54:08 |
| Charles | * we're working on implementing room v12 in grapevine, it's just slow going | 17:54:20 |
| Charles | motivation for this is very low as you might imagine | 17:54:31 |
| Charles | * motivation for matrix work is very low as you might imagine | 17:54:38 |
| emily | indeed | 17:54:42 |
| emily | I was just curious | 17:54:44 |
| emily | I've avoided the meme of setting up my own Matrix server for this long | 17:54:56 |
| Charles | good call apparently lol | 17:55:28 |
