| 24 Apr 2025 |
 Cat | I didn’t mention bot shenanigans because it has a scaling problem and a massive tendency to amplify the existing problems | 06:13:01 |
| Cat | And well it makes state res even more expensive | 06:13:16 |
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 woobilicious | Cat: What are these scaling problems? is this due to it being E2E? | 08:22:13 |
| Cat | It puts an artificial cap on the amount of users a given room can have at a given time that are approved. Even if said cap is quite high its still a cap. | 08:29:27 |
| Cat | and the non capped approach instead allows the spam to race with your bot causing just as much havoc potentially. | 08:29:54 |
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 @federicodschonborn:matrix.org | Hi, can I get an invite for #users:nixos.org ? | 04:02:14 |
| woobilicious | Cat: still rather confused where the cap is coming from, I would assume it would be no different to the discord bots that add roles on request, it should be entirely stateless, only difference is you don't get space wide roles / groups, with per-channel rules. | 05:13:13 |
 @emma:rory.gay | because powerlevels are tracked in a single event | 05:58:53 |
| @emma:rory.gay | and.. well... each event is capped at ~64KB | 05:59:12 |
| @emma:rory.gay | (that doesnt include federation signing keys and all) | 05:59:24 |
| @emma:rory.gay | so, at the end, youre only able to fit so many user IDs in there | 06:16:31 |
| @i5heu:i5h.eu changed their display name from Mia to Mia (very new and amazing). | 11:57:48 |
 ari ❄ | i have that implemented in my matrix bot, though for a slightly different usecase - hackerspace members-only matrix rooms/spaces | 13:02:03 |
| ari ❄ | (the reactions -> invites thing) | 13:03:13 |
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| 26 Apr 2025 |
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| Yorusaka Miyabi | Can we allow medias in #nixos-zhcn:nichi.co ? | 14:01:57 |
 Fernando Rodrigues | That room doesn't look like it's managed by NixOS' Mjolnir, so you'd need to contact the room's moderators to have them allow sending media there. | 14:03:10 |
