| 15 Apr 2025 |
 @emma:rory.gay | oh wait, github isnt loading because i had a single tab stuck in a spinlock... | 23:24:53 |
| @emma:rory.gay | ffs firefox | 23:24:57 |
| @emma:rory.gay | the solution is to not use element | 23:25:50 |
 Dandellion | :) | 23:25:56 |
| @emma:rory.gay | the issue is even worse with knocking btw :) | 23:26:16 |
| @emma:rory.gay | you need to enable a labs feature to knock, but it breaks joining regular rooms | 23:26:32 |
| Dandellion | I can imagine | 23:26:35 |
| @emma:rory.gay | nheko handles all 4 cases just fine /shrug | 23:26:51 |
| @emma:rory.gay | and so does element x, so that covers all the clients i personally care about | 23:27:09 |
| Dandellion | call me (lol) when nheko gets video calls :/ | 23:27:21 |
| @emma:rory.gay | it has video calls | 23:27:32 |
| Dandellion | Like modern? | 23:27:55 |
| @emma:rory.gay | "modern"? | 23:28:00 |
| Dandellion | matrixrtc | 23:28:14 |
| @emma:rory.gay | you mean Element Call? the thing that isnt in spec at all? | 23:28:20 |
| @emma:rory.gay | (is it even documented?) | 23:28:28 |
| Dandellion | doesnt fluffy do it? | 23:28:38 |
| @emma:rory.gay | it didnt last i checked? | 23:28:50 |
| @emma:rory.gay | but i also cant use fluffy because it just shits itself as soon as it touches my account | 23:29:14 |
| @emma:rory.gay | last i checked there were 3 open issues for that same bug on github | 23:29:28 |
| @emma:rory.gay | it only cost me 70GB of mobile data | 23:29:43 |
| Dandellion | famedly showed it off at fosdem 2024 I think, but maybe it never released | 23:30:15 |
| Dandellion | I could maybe get away with jitsi with other element users (though that's also a downgrade), but if nheko just has the 1:1 webrtc calls that'd be a no go | 23:32:42 |
| @emma:rory.gay | i dont even use calls on matrix | 23:34:16 |
| @emma:rory.gay | i use them so often i even disable call support when compiling nheko! | 23:34:25 |
| Dandellion | that is the problem with chat apps isnt it? All users absolutely need 5 features but 4 of those are all different per person :) | 23:35:28 |
| @emma:rory.gay | the only features i use are uh | 23:36:25 |
| @emma:rory.gay | messages, timeline, state, spaces and rooms | 23:36:40 |
| @emma:rory.gay | yes, i maintain non-chat matrix clients | 23:36:50 |
| 16 Apr 2025 |
 syd installs gentoo (they/them) | In reply to @emma:rory.gay
the solution is to not use element /confetti I agree lol | 00:07:27 |
