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15 Apr 2025
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gaywould it be that problematic to manually accept knocks? i dont think the join volume is that high after all23:22:06
@uep:matrix.orguepwe've set the room to knock or invite mode a bunch of times during attacks, and will continue to do so23:23:15
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellionI use his in a bot I make, the only issue is that element generally doesn't like it for some reason https://github.com/element-hq/element-web/issues/2810923:23:23
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellion* I use this in a bot I make, the only issue is that element generally doesn't like it for some reason https://github.com/element-hq/element-web/issues/2810923:23:33
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gaygithub is still down for me23:23:37
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellionif it doesn't know how to join a room, it will just try and succeed, but if it knows about the room it will try to locally understand the join rules and fails, or something like that23:24:22
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gaycan someone tell me what that issue is about?23:24:24
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gayoh wait, github isnt loading because i had a single tab stuck in a spinlock...23:24:53
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gayffs firefox23:24:57
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gaythe solution is to not use element23:25:50
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellion:)23:25:56
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gaythe issue is even worse with knocking btw :)23:26:16
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gayyou need to enable a labs feature to knock, but it breaks joining regular rooms23:26:32
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellionI can imagine23:26:35
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gaynheko handles all 4 cases just fine /shrug23:26:51
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gayand so does element x, so that covers all the clients i personally care about23:27:09
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellioncall me (lol) when nheko gets video calls :/23:27:21
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gayit has video calls23:27:32
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellionLike modern?23:27:55
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gay"modern"?23:28:00
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellionmatrixrtc23:28:14
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gayyou mean Element Call? the thing that isnt in spec at all?23:28:20
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gay(is it even documented?)23:28:28
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandelliondoesnt fluffy do it?23:28:38
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gayit didnt last i checked?23:28:50
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gaybut i also cant use fluffy because it just shits itself as soon as it touches my account23:29:14
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gaylast i checked there were 3 open issues for that same bug on github23:29:28
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gayit only cost me 70GB of mobile data23:29:43
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellionfamedly showed it off at fosdem 2024 I think, but maybe it never released23:30:15
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellionI could maybe get away with jitsi with other element users (though that's also a downgrade), but if nheko just has the 1:1 webrtc calls that'd be a no go23:32:42

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