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13 Apr 2025
@zekeriyaoz:matrix.orgmao zedong changed their profile picture.08:26:51
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14 Apr 2025
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gayhandled by NsfwProtection fwiw01:21:36
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gayset the treshold to 0 and it wont even run the AI model stuff01:21:49
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gaythat protection scans all MXC uris in events, regardless of type01:22:28
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@ar:is-a.catari ❄ @Emma [it/its] > meanwhile me trying not to add too many more spaces... lol
i created my own space and stuff spaces under that space
07:36:56
@ar:is-a.catari ❄
(though most clients that dont handle spaces, can still join them)
from client PoV, spaces are just fancy rooms, and even if they don't support them explicitly, they can still join them, or invite other users to them
07:39:24
@ar:is-a.catari ❄also, re: writing matrix bots: i've recently started writing my own in rust; aside from the compile times, it's actually nice. though i am using this to learn rust at the same time, so the code is, predictably, kinda bad: https://code.hackerspace.pl/ar/notbot/src/branch/cleanup09:24:20
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@scrush:matrix.orgscrush

i have seen lots of discussions about how to grant access to the channels to contain the spam attacks.
and a lot of opinions arise from the concerns about too low or to harsh rules for entry.

I would like to drop my 2 cents as well =)

  • why not start easy and expand if needed
    -> evolutionary approach instead of fix in one step
    -> nixos wouldnt be here if it wasnt growing in an evolutionary way

  • whats about a fail2ban like mechanism? couple of rules together build a score and result in ban.

10:30:21
@k900:0upti.meK9001) well what would the first step be? 2) we already have that in mjolnir10:32:48
@scrush:matrix.orgscrush
  1. uuuhm i don't want to press on a single point there. but i've seen ideas that make me wonder if that wouldnt delay an intermediate solution unnecessary.

but something like "press here to join" could be sufficient first step.
the next one would obviously be some kind of a Q/A - but I am afraid thats not worth the effort since thats solved waaay to easy with AI.
And I liked the ideas of linking it to existing accounts on github/discourse.

And another escalation of the filter could be: ---> and I would deeply embrace this one.

  • granting access to the chat after a couple of threads on discourse are done. Maybe depending on If've been part of a discussion that has been set to "solved".

But I guess there is no need to fulfill the 100% in the first introduction.

In general I don't like too many people stirring the bowl, and now I am one of them. so I feel kinda sorry. :)

10:45:01
@scrush:matrix.orgscrush
  1. mjolnir -> aaah nice!
10:47:02
@cat:feline.supportCatMjolnirs existing automatic heuristics are pretty trivial to workaround. Theres a reason a much more advanced system for this type of stuff is being worked on in Draupnir and got delayed by the more emergent need to heavily improve Server administration tooling.10:48:06
@balsoft:balsoft.rubalsoftHey all, I'm a moderator in a room that's part of the NixOS space (and thus moderated by the moderation bot). Said bot is removing all images and videos, which is quite annoying since this is a big room with lots of new users who often send screenshots to get help. Is there a way to disable this?11:18:22
@k900:0upti.meK900This is a temporary measure for the CSAM attacks11:25:26
@k900:0upti.meK900We'll turn it off once the spam waves calm down11:25:33
@balsoft:balsoft.rubalsoftAh ok, thanks!11:39:37
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@mkg20001:mkg20001.iomkg20001 The "NIx / NixOS" channel is broken for me. last message is from 21:09 from i think yesterday. trying to leave the channel gives me MatrixError: [404] Not a known room (https://synapse.mkg20001.io/_matrix/client/v3/rooms/!RRerllqmbATpmbJgCn%3Anixos.org/leave). not sure this is the right room (and also not sure this is an issue on my server or a setting that was changed) but this must have happened somewhere during the raid. 17:29:50
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think the room split-brained after the recent spam attacks and we need to recreate it17:36:34
@mkg20001:mkg20001.iomkg20001easiest would be to upgrade it17:38:00
@mkg20001:mkg20001.iomkg20001upgrade automatically re-creates and tombstones the old one17:38:12
@scrush:matrix.orgscrushI Had Same issue Yesterday evening and i have sent a headsup in the Mod Channel. There were two Guys working on it Last night and today IT worked for me so fae17:39:18
@scrush:matrix.orgscrush* I Had Same issue Yesterday evening and i have sent a headsup in the Mod Channel. There were two Guys working on it Last night and today IT worked for me so far. Btw: mobile autocoreect suxxx17:39:38
@scrush:matrix.orgscrushAre you considered a member? I Had lost my member Status yesterday and gained it back somehow17:40:37
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyright, that's what I meant. we've done it with other rooms a bunch before17:45:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily I think K900 usually does it 17:45:16
@scrush:matrix.orgscrushSomebody knows what is meant saying a matrix room is split brained? I know that term from clusters where members get a defect connection to their neighbors. But for matrix? Dunno17:51:16

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