| 22 May 2025 |
|  AngryAnt joined the room. | 17:22:31 |
| AngryAnt | Room auto-migration fails for my account. Looks like I also need an invite. | 17:24:38 |
| AngryAnt | Thanks :) | 17:26:24 |
|  MysticalComp joined the room. | 20:08:50 |
 Zhaofeng Li | (from #dev:nixos.org)
kind of confused why @alice:the-apothecary.club does not appear to be in the new #users room (!6oudZq5zJjAyrxL2uY:0upti.me)
| 20:29:16 |
| Zhaofeng Li | even though my synapse db has both the m.room.member event as well as the corresponding entry in room_memberships | 20:29:19 |
| Zhaofeng Li | oh... I see
outlier | t
| 20:30:49 |
| Zhaofeng Li | so is my homeserver screwed now, or is there a way to resolve this? | 20:31:26 |
| Zhaofeng Li | * so is my homeserver screwed now, or is there a way to resolve this?
(the event ID for the join is $PDH1H_y8Pj4Q71bB3ZpKbTNnSGgPriTkGfPa65B_VWA)
| 20:32:33 |
| Zhaofeng Li | wanted to go to this message which is also an outlier in my db, and element desktop refused (expected) | 20:51:44 |
| Zhaofeng Li | in a naive attempt to trigger some kind of sync, I tried to scroll all the way up in element desktop in the room, and apparently there is no view recycling and it attempts to put all messages in the DOM? | 20:53:13 |
| Zhaofeng Li | it's obvious that either something is broken with my homeserver or I'm holding it wrong... so I have this message that was sent before I joined the room
event_id | $j_uhNCM81zCfaTGUeP_XepUx3sy6SwSVru0-JJz3LmM
type | m.room.message
room_id | !6oudZq5zJjAyrxL2uY:0upti.me
processed | t
outlier | t
depth | 13344
origin_server_ts | 1747498822372
received_ts | 1747653075862
sender | @elvishje rricco:matrix.org (trying to not trigger a ping)
| 21:05:50 |
| Zhaofeng Li | I can see the content in event_json and it does not appear to be redacted | 21:06:08 |
| Zhaofeng Li | but I cannot see this message in my client (due to it unable to be resolved, I presume) - is there a general approach to resolve issues like this? | 21:07:16 |
|  @pseudotech:matrix.org joined the room. | 21:09:40 |
| @pseudotech:matrix.org left the room. | 21:10:52 |
|  mrckndt joined the room. | 23:22:45 |
| 23 May 2025 |
|  @nicmollel:matrix.org joined the room. | 00:44:20 |
|  @leira:matrix.org joined the room. | 03:51:03 |
|  infinisil joined the room. | 04:20:48 |
| infinisil | Invite-only for the main room really blows, I'll also need one :/ | 04:21:57 |
 uep | it does.. it is still better than the alternative | 04:34:39 |
| infinisil | If Matrix is so terrible at being able to moderate content, I think this is our cue to switch away from Matrix | 04:36:55 |
| uep | the spammers just seem to target the largest public rooms. if everyone joins here to get invitations, soon they will target here | 04:37:32 |
| infinisil | Official spaces being harder to join than inofficial ones is not great.. | 04:40:22 |
| infinisil | But yeah, I don't have any great proposals for alternatives, but would love to hear ideas | 04:41:16 |
 KFears (they/them) | In reply to @uep:matrix.org
the spammers just seem to target the largest public rooms. if everyone joins here to get invitations, soon they will target here Yep... | 04:45:21 |
| KFears (they/them) | It's only delaying the inevitable | 04:46:00 |
| KFears (they/them) | And since Matrix won't get its shit together on a human timescale, it's a very strong cue to consider leaving Matrix | 04:46:30 |
| KFears (they/them) | I do somewhat struggle anybody going through with it though, so it'll just end up being suffering and moderation burnout | 04:47:05 |
