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22 May 2025
@gnu_ponut:matrix.orgGnuxie 💜🐝
In reply to @f0x:pixie.town
what would be the difference?
the difference would be huge
07:19:23
@gnu_ponut:matrix.orgGnuxie 💜🐝 lemme get you a link 07:19:32
@gnu_ponut:matrix.orgGnuxie 💜🐝 @f0x:pixie.town https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/4124 07:20:36
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng LiI was thinking of activitypub/mastodon-style bans - you don't need to add the blocklist to each room and just ignore anything with a sender from the blocked homeservers07:21:07
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li(i.e., blocked applied by homeserver admins, not room admins)07:21:27
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li* (i.e., blocks applied by homeserver admins, not room admins)07:22:57
@f0x:pixie.townf0x
In reply to @zhaofeng:zhaofeng.li
I was thinking of activitypub/mastodon-style bans - you don't need to add the blocklist to each room and just ignore anything with a sender from the blocked homeservers
I think the best you could do is automatically setting server-acl (ish) things on all rooms your users have permission to. There's a fundamental difference with ActivityPub in how a block needs to affect other users/servers: AP servers are free to not send events to arbitrary other servers, and hide/drop events from blocked servers, but this approach doesn't work well in a shared chatroom, especially when it needs server cooperation to arrive at a shared room state
07:28:59
@f0x:pixie.townf0x
In reply to @gnu_ponut:matrix.org
@f0x:pixie.town https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/4124
right, that's less about homeserver bans though, and rather a mechanism to allow for pre-screening?
07:31:14

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