3 Jul 2024 |
@andreas:schildbach.de | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network the old one went split brain and needed to be replaced Thanks. What does split brain mean? | 12:01:31 |
hexa | the state between homeservers has diverged | 12:01:46 |
hexa | they disagree about the current room state | 12:01:56 |
hexa | like who has what powerlevel, what is the room icon, title and topic | 12:02:07 |
@andreas:schildbach.de | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network the state between homeservers has diverged Interesting. Is this a known or common problem with Matrix spaces? Can it still happen in future, with the new space? | 12:38:33 |
emily | it's a Matrix problem in general | 12:38:48 |
hexa | I think it was caused when EMS expunged data from the homeserver due to GDPR requests by former account holders | 12:39:49 |
problems | it's supposed to be impossible but state res algorithm/implementation not perfect | 12:40:07 |
hexa | who at the same time created and configured most of the initial rooms | 12:40:11 |
@andreas:schildbach.de | Are any of the actual rooms also affected, or only the space itself? | 12:41:37 |
Sumner Evans | Probably some rooms, but most were not created by the deleted user, so probably won't be broken. | 13:56:28 |
Sumner Evans | hexa: can you add a note to the description of #space:nixos.org that it was upgraded? | 16:35:56 |
hexa | Download image.png | 16:36:27 |
hexa | the description is already kinda long | 16:36:31 |
hexa | not sure who will read it | 16:36:41 |
hexa | or you mean into the space name? | 16:36:46 |
Sumner Evans | (the description also has the wrong link to community) | 16:36:46 |
Sumner Evans | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network not sure who will read it it's shown on invites | 16:36:53 |
Sumner Evans | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network not sure who will read it * The description is shown on invites | 16:37:00 |
emily | I take it putting it in the old one wouldn't work now? | 16:37:00 |
hexa | ok, updated | 16:37:52 |
Sumner Evans | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org I take it putting it in the old one wouldn't work now? hexa: could change the description on the old one, but I doubt many people will read it. I think that it's worth doing, though. | 16:38:51 |
emily | they might read it when they click onto the space | 16:39:06 |
emily | if we make it 72 point impact | 16:39:11 |
emily | and put a link on it. but can you even do that in replaced rooms? would it even survive the split-brain? | 16:39:32 |
hexa | if someone still has the old room id | 16:40:42 |
Sumner Evans | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network if someone still has the old room id you can go to the timeline for the new space and at the top there's a link to the old room | 16:40:56 |
hexa | oh sure | 16:41:02 |
Sumner Evans | !MKvhXlSTLGJUXpYuWF:nixos.org is the old one though | 16:41:16 |
hexa | Download image.png | 16:41:27 |