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15 Apr 2024
@admin:nixos.orgadmin (Moderation Team)it was the room permissions, which I locked down on the old room, before upgrading06:56:50
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubThanks for fixing it!14:13:16
@k900:0upti.meK900 I think #macos:nixos.org is scuffed now too 14:15:20
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaalways has been!14:57:22
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa * always has been 14:57:29
@admin:nixos.orgadmin (Moderation Team)fixed14:59:02
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubSo the rooms are having desync issues right? Do we know what's causing that to happen?16:15:43
@k900:0upti.meK900The redactions on the nixos.org server16:16:03
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubAnd the fact that those keep triggering this bad state... is a protocol-level bug? I'm just trying to understand better17:19:29
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubLike, there's some ambiguity in the protocol over how to handle redactions originating from the host server vs other federating servers, and different server implementations made different choices? Or, maybe it could just be a bug in one or more server implementations?21:00:20
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbIsn't it just because you only really see it when you resync your entire client again? E.g. if you haven't reset you client since before the event, you wouldn't notice21:10:51
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@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.club
In reply to @eyjhb:eyjhb.dk
Isn't it just because you only really see it when you resync your entire client again? E.g. if you haven't reset you client since before the event, you wouldn't notice
But if you DO reset your client in the meantime, it's unable to resolve the discrepancy and can't sync the room at all? Do I have that right? So in that case, is it a bug with the client-server API part of the protocol, or just a bug in some clients?
22:53:41
16 Apr 2024
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriad
In reply to@admin:nixos.org
fixed
Still broken for me at least
00:00:15
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhb
In reply to @fractivore:cyberia.club
But if you DO reset your client in the meantime, it's unable to resolve the discrepancy and can't sync the room at all? Do I have that right? So in that case, is it a bug with the client-server API part of the protocol, or just a bug in some clients?
No, the events are just redacted. So it can't sync what's not there to sync. :) at least that's my understanding
09:32:52
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhb E.g. event for channel topic, channel image, etc. 09:33:14
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubI'm just thinking, it can't be intended behavior. Thanks for engaging with me on this line of inquiry.18:20:22
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.club
In reply to @qyriad:katesiria.org
Still broken for me at least
Even now? What client are you on, by the way?
18:20:51
@rostby:matrix.orgRostby This might be stupid but I feel like matrix is alot more clunky compared to alternatives  18:23:57
@k900:0upti.meK900It is18:24:03
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesWhat alternatives18:36:51
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