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14 Apr 2024
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriadIdk21:56:42
@admin:nixos.orgadmin (Moderation Team)can you flush cache and reload?21:57:06
@admin:nixos.orgadmin (Moderation Team)before I go ballistic on the room21:57:14
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriadNo effect22:01:21
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriadOh it was the audio room, huh22:05:04
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriad Alright yep this appears to have worked well! Thank you! 22:15:13
15 Apr 2024
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubeyyyy the room is completely broken for me now. The old one shows a message about being upgraded, while the new one says I'm not allowed to send messages.05:33:51
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.club * eyyyy the room is completely broken for me now. The old one shows a message about being upgraded, while the new one says I do not have permission to post to the room.05:34:51
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.club * eyyyy the #audio:nixos.org room is completely broken for me now. The old one shows a message about being upgraded, while the new one says I do not have permission to post to the room. 05:35:49
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa Then it likely copied permissioms from the old room. 05:36:01
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.club
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
Then it likely copied permissioms from the old room.
I don't understand. I had permission to post to the old room. If it copied permissions, wouldn't I have permissions to post to the new one as well?
05:38:54
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubor, it copied them after I left?05:40:11
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubJust in case, I tried leaving the room and rejoining it, but no dice.06:48:19
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriadI don't appear to have permissions either06:51:21
@admin:nixos.orgadmin (Moderation Team)should be fixed06:56:34
@admin:nixos.orgadmin (Moderation Team)it was the room permissions, which I locked down on the old room, before upgrading06:56:50
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubThanks for fixing it!14:13:16
@k900:0upti.meK900 I think #macos:nixos.org is scuffed now too 14:15:20
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaalways has been!14:57:22
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa * always has been 14:57:29
@admin:nixos.orgadmin (Moderation Team)fixed14:59:02
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubSo the rooms are having desync issues right? Do we know what's causing that to happen?16:15:43
@k900:0upti.meK900The redactions on the nixos.org server16:16:03
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubAnd the fact that those keep triggering this bad state... is a protocol-level bug? I'm just trying to understand better17:19:29
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.clubLike, there's some ambiguity in the protocol over how to handle redactions originating from the host server vs other federating servers, and different server implementations made different choices? Or, maybe it could just be a bug in one or more server implementations?21:00:20
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbIsn't it just because you only really see it when you resync your entire client again? E.g. if you haven't reset you client since before the event, you wouldn't notice21:10:51
@mx:d3v0.med3v0 left the room.22:29:27
@fractivore:cyberia.club@fractivore:cyberia.club
In reply to @eyjhb:eyjhb.dk
Isn't it just because you only really see it when you resync your entire client again? E.g. if you haven't reset you client since before the event, you wouldn't notice
But if you DO reset your client in the meantime, it's unable to resolve the discrepancy and can't sync the room at all? Do I have that right? So in that case, is it a bug with the client-server API part of the protocol, or just a bug in some clients?
22:53:41
16 Apr 2024
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriad
In reply to@admin:nixos.org
fixed
Still broken for me at least
00:00:15
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhb
In reply to @fractivore:cyberia.club
But if you DO reset your client in the meantime, it's unable to resolve the discrepancy and can't sync the room at all? Do I have that right? So in that case, is it a bug with the client-server API part of the protocol, or just a bug in some clients?
No, the events are just redacted. So it can't sync what's not there to sync. :) at least that's my understanding
09:32:52

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