| 25 Jun 2021 |
 ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | i think we should scrap them and if people want them so bad they can go through the proper process this time | 02:44:09 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | it's not important enough to block the entire release pipeline for 2 years | 02:45:17 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | i don't honestly understand the dynamic here - why has nothing been done about the continued problem? | 02:57:55 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | is it because it's eelco that's pushing it? | 02:58:05 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | because nobody feels empowered to say "we should get rid of this and it can be reintroduced later, properly"? | 03:00:09 |
 David Arnold (blaggacao) | nobody feels empowered to make decisions. | 03:00:46 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | and tell others what to do... | 03:00:56 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Everyone is waiting what "evolves". | 03:01:39 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | fine, then i want to propose we definitively do something about this. how do i do that and get peoples' attention? | 03:01:41 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
fine, then i want to propose we definitively do something about this. how do i do that and get peoples' attention? Writa an addition to the UFR | 03:01:59 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | you can edit the docs... | 03:02:08 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | I'd suggest a section about getting rid of nix 3.0 flake entangelement | 03:02:25 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | It already says:
a highly contested item (“solve everything at once”)
| 03:03:06 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | I think that's the pass for you to score your point | 03:03:26 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | (or the point) | 03:03:38 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | https://demo.hedgedoc.org/uyQYTpTVQbyvpdcJ6MvlQg?both# | 03:03:51 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | (edit link) | 03:03:55 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | and where is this unofficial roadmap being pushed? | 03:03:59 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | this is the first time i've seen it | 03:04:12 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
and where is this unofficial roadmap being pushed? It's going viral 🤣 | 03:04:19 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
this is the first time i've seen it I'ts 2 days old or so | 03:04:32 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | But Elco has already had the chance to have a peak at it | 03:04:45 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
this is the first time i've seen it * It's 2 days old or so | 03:04:58 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | But yeah, it laks a point about `nix 3.0 entablement (or disentaglement) | 03:05:24 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * But yeah, it laks a point about nix 3.0 entanglement (or disentaglement) | 03:05:32 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * But yeah, it lacks a point about nix 3.0 entanglement (or disentaglement) | 03:05:37 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * But yeah, it lacks a point about nix 3.0 entanglement (or disentaglement) | 03:05:46 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | I also think we should revert the outputs schema and let it grow via a separate RFC-like process or provide outputs.name.__contract semantics, where the tooling can consume the contract and validate against it | 03:06:36 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | And we should refine the inputs semantics | 03:07:04 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | i don't care what happens to flakes, i just want it gone so it stops being an impediment to the healthy ecosystem | 03:07:22 |
