| 25 Jun 2021 |
 David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
i don't care what happens to flakes, i just want it gone so it stops being an impediment to the healthy ecosystem Nah... that stance needs still a little work, I'd guess. | 03:07:57 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | There is already some work consolidating around the input stuff here: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/4641 | 03:08:13 |
 ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | no it doesn't. flakes can come back when it's ready. | 03:08:20 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
no it doesn't. flakes can come back when it's ready. Make a distionction | 03:08:32 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
no it doesn't. flakes can come back when it's ready. * Make a distinction | 03:08:39 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | ... where it's approriate. | 03:08:45 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | flake vs nix 3.0 | 03:08:50 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | or nix flake | 03:08:56 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | vs flake.nix | 03:09:00 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | flakes should never have been introduced to nix unstable in the first place | 03:09:22 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | I hear you point as such: nix flake go away so we can release nix | 03:09:29 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | they should've been developed separately | 03:09:30 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | What are flakes? | 03:10:36 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * What are flakes? | 03:11:33 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | the thing i'm seeing with this document is a lot of discussion that would be welcome in an rfc | 03:13:02 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
they should've been developed separately A plugin system for nix would be nice. | 03:13:04 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | but this isn't an rfc | 03:13:09 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | it's a discussion about what to do right now | 03:13:17 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | which doesn't mean "rethinking flakes" or changing the implementation | 03:13:29 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
it's a discussion about what to do right now I would be suffering if they where removed omorrow) | 03:14:10 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
A plugin system for nix would be nice. nobody needs a plugin system. flakes can be implemented in pure nix at least as a proof of concept, and it would've been easier to hack on the implementation then | 03:14:14 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
it's a discussion about what to do right now * I would be suffering if they where removed tomorrow | 03:14:16 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
nobody needs a plugin system. flakes can be implemented in pure nix at least as a proof of concept, and it would've been easier to hack on the implementation then Sure, we need one. I'm no Cpp expert. | 03:14:31 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | (I don't know even not a littl bit) | 03:14:47 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | (I can barely read the code, half) | 03:14:54 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
I would be suffering if they where removed tomorrow sorry you rely so much on an unstable hotly contested feature that should've never been implemented in the first place. | 03:15:07 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | :/ | 03:15:11 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | :/ | 03:15:20 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | You see the problem 😄 | 03:15:35 |
| ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ | i see the problem is people started relying on an unstable feature and now view it as vital to the ecosystem | 03:16:19 |
