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25 Jun 2021
@kity:kity.wtfashand is that supposed to be a step towards fixing flakes or removing them?03:23:24
@kity:kity.wtfashbecause i don't care about fixing them03:23:29
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
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because i don't care about fixing them
You said that already.
03:23:40
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldBUt it's not very prone to consensus, I guess.03:23:51
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold * But it's not very prone to consensus, I guess.03:23:58
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
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and is that supposed to be a step towards fixing flakes or removing them?
fixing inputs. removing output contracts.
03:24:26
@kity:kity.wtfashwhat consensus? nobody agrees on what flakes should be, there was no consensus for letting them into nix in the first place03:24:39
@kity:kity.wtfashand now everyone is relying on them03:24:45
@kity:kity.wtfashi don't know or care what input or output contracts are :/03:25:04
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnoldthats indeed very intricate policits of playing consensus03:25:15
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
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i don't know or care what input or output contracts are :/
only output contracts
03:25:30
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnoldlike typed outputs03:25:34
@kity:kity.wtfash
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thats indeed very intricate policits of playing consensus
so they snuck in because eelco is the founder and primary maintainer of nix, and now we have to bikeshed all over to get them out?
03:26:01
@kity:kity.wtfashit's embarrassing, honestly03:26:12
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldThe real problem is that there are not more elcos.03:26:31
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldAnd I don't thnk there is any glass ceiling involved.03:26:40
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldIt might be a concotion of C++ code base and [I don't know]...03:27:11
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldA good think would be to split out the language interpretaer from the CLI03:27:38
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold(for exmaple)03:27:42
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold * A good think would be to split out the language interpreter from the CLI03:27:49
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnoldmake the holthing a little more pluggable03:27:55
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold * make the whole thing a little more pluggable03:28:06
@kity:kity.wtfashyes, sure, that's a great idea03:28:08
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnoldipmlement the language interpreter in rust?03:28:25
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnoldor haskell?03:28:28
@kity:kity.wtfasheveryone's full of ideas03:28:29
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnoldto get a few more eyes on deck03:28:33
@kity:kity.wtfashthere's already a language interpreter in haskell and there was supposed to be one in rust03:28:53
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold It's just something we could do right now 03:28:56
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldAnd gather consensus, probably03:29:12

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