| 2 Jul 2021 |
 pie_ | * Is there a threat model/description of whatever it is that verification of users protocol does somewhere? | 12:20:15 |
 infinisil | Oh I know for sure that the verification shows random emojis | 12:24:48 |
| infinisil | jcie74: If you do the verification multiple times, they'll be different | 12:25:00 |
| pie_ | might be TOTP | 12:25:10 |
| pie_ | * might be TOTP or whatever - something time dependent | 12:25:17 |
 f0x | In reply to @jcie74:matrix.org
Im tiring infinisil by saying nonphysical verification is largely pointless, or somewhat undesirable :P it's still TOFU | 12:25:24 |
| pie_ | I know what TOFU is but what do you mean | 12:26:01 |
| f0x | well that you see when it gets switched later | 12:27:22 |
| pie_ | In reply to @jcie74:matrix.org
might be TOTP or whatever - something time dependent or just salted | 12:27:24 |
| pie_ | In reply to @jcie74:matrix.org
might be TOTP or whatever - something time dependent * or just salted / something | 12:27:27 |
| pie_ | * or just salted with a nonce / something | 12:27:50 |
| pie_ | * or just salted with a nonce / something (im probably butchering the terminology) | 12:28:02 |
| infinisil | jcie74: https://matrix.org/docs/spec/client_server/r0.4.0#device-verification | 12:40:10 |
| infinisil | jcie74: https://matrix.org/docs/guides/end-to-end-encryption-implementation-guide | 12:40:27 |
| infinisil | Oh actually ignore the first link, that's an older version | 12:41:13 |
| infinisil | Here's the latest: https://matrix.org/docs/spec/client_server/latest#device-verification | 12:41:16 |
| infinisil | https://matrix.org/docs/spec/client_server/latest#sas-verification | 12:41:38 |
| pie_ | Ok Ill take a look later | 14:26:16 |
| 3 Jul 2021 |
 red | Oddly pie_ that would be a discussion I'd really enjoy having.
Gonna have to wait until I'm in a place with better internet access. | 15:12:22 |
 David Arnold | Is latest element on andoid constantly crashing? | 16:03:49 |
| David Arnold | * Is latest element on andoid constantly crashing for anybody else? | 16:04:09 |
 hexa | regularly | 16:07:12 |
| red | Erm, did we bridge to libera? | 16:30:27 |
| red | I had a random libera irc bridge bot message me on matrix out of the blue. | 16:30:55 |
| f0x | don't think the nix channels are, but most of the official matrix rooms bridge | 16:38:28 |
 CRTified | In reply to @red:evil.red
Erm, did we bridge to libera? There is an official libera bridge, I hope this link to a message works, otherwise it's just 2-3 days ago https://matrix.to/#/!GsmxjHfeAYLsTEQmjS:nixos.org/$pDcm4LTMzRf58e5n8G1UE2pvPzRZ25d7nK-cKuJIUg4?via=ruhr-uni-bochum.de&via=matrix.org&via=fairydust.space | 16:39:54 |
| 5 Jul 2021 |
 Zhaofeng Li | Not really NixOS-related, but a question for those familiar with Matrix: How can I set a room to have join_rule=restricted (i.e., accessible to Space members only) at the moment? The release notes say that MSC3083 is implemented in Synapse, but I don't see any way to actually enable it for my room. | 01:18:05 |
| Zhaofeng Li | On Element Android the UI is there, but it's hardcoded to throw an UnsupportedOperationException: https://github.com/vector-im/element-android/blob/751efb57fc621ba466796ba9bd92b2f19e5d9e68/matrix-sdk-android/src/main/java/org/matrix/android/sdk/internal/session/room/state/DefaultStateService.kt#L131 | 01:18:56 |
 sumner | No client supports it yet. I expect that it will be implemented relatively soon. | 01:26:18 |
 andi- | Are there any objections against me adding a matrix user to each of the channels advertised within the NixOS space? The motivation is that I'd like to continue serving logs for the channels via e.g. https://logs.nixos.dev/room/%21KqkRjyTEzAGRiZFBYT:nixos.org/
Even if channels are accessible by guests I can only serve history if I have a user in all of those channels. I'd rather not couple that to one of my identities but a bot.
I've some code that will ensure the user will join all channels that permit guests (all others will be ignored). | 16:24:48 |
