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25 Jun 2021
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnoldyou can edit the docs...03:02:08
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold I'd suggest a section about getting rid of nix 3.0 flake entangelement 03:02:25
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold

It already says:

a highly contested item (“solve everything at once”)

03:03:06
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldI think that's the pass for you to score your point03:03:26
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (or the point) 03:03:38
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnoldhttps://demo.hedgedoc.org/uyQYTpTVQbyvpdcJ6MvlQg?both#03:03:51
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold(edit link)03:03:55
@kity:kity.wtfashand where is this unofficial roadmap being pushed?03:03:59
@kity:kity.wtfashthis is the first time i've seen it03:04:12
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
and where is this unofficial roadmap being pushed?
It's going viral 🤣
03:04:19
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
this is the first time i've seen it
I'ts 2 days old or so
03:04:32
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldBut Elco has already had the chance to have a peak at it03:04:45
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
this is the first time i've seen it
* It's 2 days old or so
03:04:58
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldBut yeah, it laks a point about `nix 3.0 entablement (or disentaglement)03:05:24
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold * But yeah, it laks a point about nix 3.0 entanglement (or disentaglement) 03:05:32
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold * But yeah, it lacks a point about nix 3.0 entanglement (or disentaglement) 03:05:37
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold * But yeah, it lacks a point about nix 3.0 entanglement (or disentaglement) 03:05:46
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold I also think we should revert the outputs schema and let it grow via a separate RFC-like process or provide outputs.name.__contract semantics, where the tooling can consume the contract and validate against it 03:06:36
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold And we should refine the inputs semantics 03:07:04
@kity:kity.wtfashi don't care what happens to flakes, i just want it gone so it stops being an impediment to the healthy ecosystem03:07:22
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
i don't care what happens to flakes, i just want it gone so it stops being an impediment to the healthy ecosystem
Nah... that stance needs still a little work, I'd guess.
03:07:57
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid ArnoldThere is already some work consolidating around the input stuff here: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/464103:08:13
@kity:kity.wtfashno it doesn't. flakes can come back when it's ready.03:08:20
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
no it doesn't. flakes can come back when it's ready.
Make a distionction
03:08:32
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
no it doesn't. flakes can come back when it's ready.
* Make a distinction
03:08:39
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold... where it's approriate.03:08:45
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold flake vs nix 3.0 03:08:50
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold or nix flake 03:08:56
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold vs flake.nix 03:09:00
@kity:kity.wtfashflakes should never have been introduced to nix unstable in the first place03:09:22

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