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 @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | * thanks for the clarification | 16:23:23 |
 @delroth:delroth.net | interestingly Yuzu is like the only modern emulator I know which bothers to not bundle encryption keys and require users to get them from an external source | 16:23:55 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | (I made a list a few months ago in https://delroth.net/posts/emulation-crypto-keys-copyright-dmca/) | 16:24:30 |
 @atemu12:matrix.org | Ryujinx too | 16:24:29 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | ryujinx bundles a bunch of keys, not all of them, and I don't think there's much logic to it | 16:24:43 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | Oh? I had to give it the same key file as yuzu | 16:25:09 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | it doesn't really matter because keys are not creative work thus in all likelihood not copyrightable, and it's the act of using the keys which violates 17 USC 1201, regardless of where they come from | 16:25:29 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | (we actually had a lawyer support that interpretation for us a few months ago when we tried to get some legal opinion after Steam decided to remove Dolphin's listing) | 16:26:19 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | * (we actually had an IP lawyer support that interpretation for us a few months ago when we tried to get some legal opinion after Steam decided to remove Dolphin's listing) | 16:26:29 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | my post linked above is all about that, though note that it was written before Dolphin got an answer back from the IP lawyer - afaict it's all correct though | 16:27:04 |
 K900 | For yuzu it reimplements the decryption AFAIK | 16:28:34 |
| K900 | But you need to bring your own keys | 16:28:38 |
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 Charles ⚡️ | K900 (drm/amd#1417 when): https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/1417#note_2303163 | 19:14:54 |
| K900 | I was ready for a stroke ffs | 19:15:14 |
| K900 | But I guess it's just more HDMI Forum bullshit | 19:15:39 |
| K900 | Honestly would pay money to whoever makes an OLED TV with DisplayPort at this point | 19:16:01 |
| Charles ⚡️ | yeah | 19:17:34 |
 @winston:milli.ng | Doesn't KG have a 45 or so inch gaming monitor that is OLED? | 19:24:33 |
| K900 | You mean LG? | 19:25:00 |
| @winston:milli.ng | Or are you talking big TV size? | 19:25:02 |
| @winston:milli.ng | I do mean LG, laptop is lagging randomly with the large update running in the background. | 19:27:20 |
| K900 | Yeah I'm talking 65" | 19:27:37 |
| @winston:milli.ng | * Doesn't KGLG have a 45 or so inch gaming monitor that is OLED? | 19:27:48 |
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