| 6 Nov 2023 |
 K900 | 2) forward compatibility | 14:06:51 |
| K900 | I think 2) was an accident | 14:06:59 |
| K900 | But it's the reason I don't agree with "let's just shove mesa into the closure for everything" | 14:07:13 |
| K900 | Because we could technically just load Nvidia impurely now | 14:08:08 |
| K900 | But I actually think the impure Mesa is important, because it allows people to run older nixpkgs stuff with recent hardware | 14:08:35 |
 @atemu12:matrix.org | Yeah, yeah right | 14:08:50 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | Though isn't that broken anyways now that libgbm doesn't want to work with different mesa? | 14:09:08 |
| K900 | It is, but the solution here is to make libgbm also impure | 14:09:37 |
| K900 | Which we can do | 14:09:42 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | Urgh | 14:09:48 |
| K900 | I just need to find the spoons to talk to Mesa people about it | 14:09:50 |
| K900 | And figure out a solution | 14:10:00 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | I guess if mesa is tightly coupled with libgbm, it should probably be handled the same, yeah. | 14:10:30 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | Didn't you open an issue on that in their issue tracker? | 14:10:49 |
| K900 | Not yet | 14:10:54 |
| K900 | I wanted to talk first | 14:10:59 |
| K900 | Instead of busting into the issue tracker with LOOK I HAVE AN IDEA | 14:11:07 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | Someone did IIRC | 14:11:04 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | :D | 14:11:14 |
| K900 | There's also option C - make grafts actually work properly | 14:11:39 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | I think it's fine to lay out requirements we have and why the current way of doing things doesn't work for us | 14:11:52 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | You mean to (optionally?) replace libgbm/mesa with the impure one? | 14:12:14 |
| K900 | In reply to@atemu12:matrix.org
I think it's fine to lay out requirements we have and why the current way of doing things doesn't work for us Objectively, it's not their problem | 14:12:30 |
| K900 | Like | 14:12:36 |
| K900 | They don't have to cater to our stupid purity brainworms | 14:12:47 |
| K900 | Which is why I want to talk first | 14:12:59 |
| K900 | Because I think there are also advantages in this for other use cases | 14:13:11 |
 nyanbinary | How is deck on NixOS? | 14:13:17 |
| K900 | Do you mean Steam Deck? #Jovian Experiments — NixOS on your Steam Deck, and other x86 gaming devices | 14:13:25 |
| nyanbinary | Also I wonder how come SteamOS source code isnt released yet? | 14:13:26 |
