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 @tejing:matrix.org | Anyone else just restart steam and have it totally blow up their machine? The interface was scaling oddly, and steamwebhelper seemed to keep dying and being restarted, leaving behind zombie processes. Before long my system was near-unresponsive... took me a while to get a handle on it and even then an unrelated electron app never recovered for some reason. I had to kill -9 it, too. :-/ | 13:13:50 |
| @tejing:matrix.org | coredumpctl shows a bunch of coredumps for steamwebhelper due to SIGILL | 13:17:11 |
| @tejing:matrix.org | stack traces all show the problem occured many calls deep in /home/tejing/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/libcef.so | 13:21:30 |
 @atemu12:matrix.org | tejing: I know that some steamwebhelpers crash in SteamVR too. That's "normal". | 14:06:15 |
| @tejing:matrix.org | It's normal for steam to suddenly become unusable for no reason? This behavior is now consistent. It's impossible to interact with the gui as it just keeps crash-looping | 14:12:49 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | No, certainly not | 14:14:04 |
 pedrohlc ⚡️ | did you check the stderr for the why it is crash-looping? | 14:14:11 |
| pedrohlc ⚡️ | Redacted or Malformed Event | 14:14:25 |
| pedrohlc ⚡️ | * , | 14:15:26 |
| @tejing:matrix.org | I've checked logs in quite a bit of detail. the steamwebhelper processes are dying on SIGILL, which means they're trying to execute an illegal instruction (I've never actually seen that one before) | 14:15:18 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | I would not be surprising for it to start doing that sadly | 14:15:25 |
| pedrohlc ⚡️ | In reply to @tejing:matrix.org
I've checked logs in quite a bit of detail. the steamwebhelper processes are dying on SIGILL, which means they're trying to execute an illegal instruction (I've never actually seen that one before) try deleting .local/share/Steam/config/htmlcache/GPUCache | 14:16:37 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | The Q in "Valve" stands for "Quality assurance" | 14:16:46 |
| pedrohlc ⚡️ | I'm having issues with "GPUCache"s in every CEF/Electron app, whenever I change Mesa version or between running said apps in X11, XWayland and Wayland | 14:17:47 |
| pedrohlc ⚡️ | and this includes Steam (with crashes on boot), Spotify randomly not rendering, Element, Keybase, etc... | 14:18:11 |
| @tejing:matrix.org | In reply to @pedrohlc:ubiquelambda.dev
try deleting .local/share/Steam/config/htmlcache/GPUCache no help, unfortunately | 14:18:44 |
| pedrohlc ⚡️ | In reply to @tejing:matrix.org
no help, unfortunately Just to be in peace with it: you're not using my/Chaotic's mesa_git, right? | 14:19:50 |
| @tejing:matrix.org | In reply to @pedrohlc:ubiquelambda.dev
Just to be in peace with it: you're not using my/Chaotic's mesa_git, right? no. I'm on a rather old nvidia card, and using nvidia's proprietary drivers | 14:39:24 |
| @tejing:matrix.org | also, I just had to reboot, because whatever was going on seemed to have destabilized my system enough that other (at least electron) apps just couldn't be made to function correctly either... | 14:40:35 |
 @ktn:the-apothecary.club | Does anyone have any tips for benchmarking games on linux/nixos | 14:40:45 |
| @ktn:the-apothecary.club | Or like | 14:41:03 |
| @ktn:the-apothecary.club | Recording average framerates and frametimes etc of my games | 14:41:13 |
| @atemu12:matrix.org | maya: Mangohud | 14:41:13 |
| @ktn:the-apothecary.club | Thank you | 14:41:56 |
| pedrohlc ⚡️ | In reply to @ktn:the-apothecary.club
Recording average framerates and frametimes etc of my games Mangohud does that nicely, and then you can upload the benches to flightlessmango.com | 14:42:04 |
 Charles ⚡️ | In reply to @tejing:matrix.org
Anyone else just restart steam and have it totally blow up their machine? The interface was scaling oddly, and steamwebhelper seemed to keep dying and being restarted, leaving behind zombie processes. Before long my system was near-unresponsive... took me a while to get a handle on it and even then an unrelated electron app never recovered for some reason. I had to kill -9 it, too. :-/ if you updated your machine before steam started misbehaving, try rebooting | 15:53:52 |
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