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@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgOh, they link against mesa a b and c at runtime because that's what's in the sandbox..13:55:55
@k900:0upti.meK900As long as they're the same within one app13:55:59
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgSo compositor mesa/libgbm doesn't matter13:56:17
@k900:0upti.meK900Yes13:59:20
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgSo, wouldn't a good solution to this be to propagate the version of mesa an app was linked against and use that rather than the impure driver?14:05:55
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgWhy do we have the impure driver anyways for mesa?14:06:12
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.org(Other than for running impure apps of course.)14:06:27
@k900:0upti.meK9001) it can be Nvidia and not Mesa14:06:48
@k900:0upti.meK9002) forward compatibility14:06:51
@k900:0upti.meK900 I think 2) was an accident 14:06:59
@k900:0upti.meK900But it's the reason I don't agree with "let's just shove mesa into the closure for everything"14:07:13
@k900:0upti.meK900Because we could technically just load Nvidia impurely now14:08:08
@k900:0upti.meK900But I actually think the impure Mesa is important, because it allows people to run older nixpkgs stuff with recent hardware14:08:35
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgYeah, yeah right14:08:50
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgThough isn't that broken anyways now that libgbm doesn't want to work with different mesa?14:09:08
@k900:0upti.meK900It is, but the solution here is to make libgbm also impure14:09:37
@k900:0upti.meK900Which we can do14:09:42
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgUrgh14:09:48
@k900:0upti.meK900I just need to find the spoons to talk to Mesa people about it14:09:50
@k900:0upti.meK900And figure out a solution14:10:00
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgI guess if mesa is tightly coupled with libgbm, it should probably be handled the same, yeah.14:10:30
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgDidn't you open an issue on that in their issue tracker?14:10:49
@k900:0upti.meK900Not yet14:10:54
@k900:0upti.meK900I wanted to talk first14:10:59
@k900:0upti.meK900Instead of busting into the issue tracker with LOOK I HAVE AN IDEA14:11:07
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgSomeone did IIRC14:11:04
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.org:D14:11:14
@k900:0upti.meK900There's also option C - make grafts actually work properly14:11:39
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgI think it's fine to lay out requirements we have and why the current way of doing things doesn't work for us14:11:52
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgYou mean to (optionally?) replace libgbm/mesa with the impure one?14:12:14

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